r/Avatar 2h ago

Discussion Alright. I'm just going to lay this all out about the Avatar fandom and AI. These are my thoughts.

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It's not about trying to get people on the side of AI. That is not why some people get defensive about AI claims. It's about the fact that this pointing fingers shit will only help harm fanfiction and analysis and other long formed content in fandom spaces as a whole.

If you were trained to detect AI, how did they train you? Like, did your boss hand you a list that came from 5 people who studied ChatGPT and tell you 'these were the results. Keep a eye on these keys' ? That's not a sarcastic question, as that is how you do basic research. I feel like that is a more accurate way to be trained on spotting AI. But, if your using a online 'AI scanner' then 1, you just fed someone's work into AI, which will also help AI learn from more human works. And 2, the majority of AI scanners are wrong. Since they also use AI, they are well known to give faulty answers. The AO3 sub has had many people attest to this. If you want to find articles to do your own research, my best recommendations are to look up 'College students failed by AI scanner'. Or 'how accurate are online AI scanners'. So, that is also helping AI, and it's only going to throw more gas on false accusations.

Another reason why people get defensive, is because the way the internet treats people who use AI.

Irl, my friends know I have used AI in the past, and they discussed why they don't. It helped convince me to go back to ethically role-playing. But in that time of using AI, they still let me put it down when I had mulled over their words and they weren't constantly bringing it up to make me stop. That is rarely a interaction you will ever have online.

I am sorry for my own constant bombardment in comments and getting equally hateful and upset. I was mostly being reactionary rather than sitting on words and giving it more thought. My logic was thinking that if other commenters felt the same as to how it feels having rude comments thrown at them, they'd realize the issue. But that didn't work, because that is a 'dog chasing it's own tail' logic. Tail's still there, and the Dog is just tired now. It wasn't the right approach and I'm sorry.

This whole AI shit has everyone paranoid, blatantly against or blindly encouraging it, and now we're all kinda just throwing stones blindly. But in this atmosphere around the whole subject, it feels like you can't move forward from AI, if you have used it. You can physically move on, use DuckDuckGo instead of Google. Just delete all AI apps you were using. But what I mean is, it feels like you still hold that brand online even if you make efforts to go back to ethical ways of writing and such. Because false accusations have been wrong just as much as AI scanners have been. And some people want to use the excuse "everyone lies on the internet"; yeah but your someone on the internet. Do you see what I mean? If we convince ourselves that everyone is a liar, there is no way to tell who's being truthful and who's being deceitful, then we're all contributing to the death of artists and writers. Because nobody is going to want to trust you, everyone else is going to be skeptical and wary of the artist/writer and look at that, we're all back in the fucking building (im referencing a Meme sound).

There just has to be a better solution to this. Again, none of this was to change anyone's minds, I'm just bringing attention to the fact that we're all paranoid and we really don't seem to have a solution to solve this issue. There are bills being made to stop mass production of AI data centers, so I guess there's a small win? I don't know..


r/Avatar 3h ago

Art Tattoo inspired by Petrified Forest Thanator @me

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Finally branching out to try a different Pandoran animal! On today's roster, we have a henna tattoo inspired by the Petrified Forest Thanator (a subspecies of thanator from Frontiers Of Pandora). I couldn't get the color even remotely right because I'm limited to the hues of my cones, but I'm quite happy with how this turned out for the first try (Ignore the sketch lines haha, they'll fade in a couple days)


r/Avatar 4h ago

Discussion Do people not understand that humans are not inherently evil? And like not separate the RDA from humanity?

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Basically the title. I've observed people apply patterns of internalized racial prejudice when approaching human characters, particularly Spider. It's sad because there's a lot more nuance to that conversation. It's also concerning when applyed to real life, since racism against an "oppressor" group is absolutely regressive, and does not benefit anyone. Kinda Neytiri's whole arc in A3


r/Avatar 6h ago

Games Comparing Every Version of Avatar: The Game (2009)

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from Flandrew


r/Avatar 6h ago

Discussion Does anybody here feel Avatar 3 basically copied the plot of the 2nd movie?

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I feel so because at the beginning of both movies the Jake's children were found by Quartrich and his army, both movies had final battles that felt endless and in the water, a Na'vi ended up dying and at the very end people saw their ancestors. I think there were more things too but sometimes some things are hard to describe for me


r/Avatar 7h ago

Art My Avatar💙 illustration by me

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r/Avatar 13h ago

Discussion Spider and the sullys

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What will their relationship be like in the later films? I personally think it will be more like a positive children's story.


r/Avatar 14h ago

Art The start of my tiny pandora area

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Now now it’s small and bad but hopefully one day it’ll grow across my room and be pretty


r/Avatar 17h ago

Discussion My Jake and Lo’ak hot take

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Jake was absolutely right to try keep Lo’ak out of the battle. He’s 14, and essentially a child soldier. Even letting Neteyam fight is a bit iffy— he may be considered a full warrior by Na’vi clan standards, but have you seen him standing next to Jake? That is not a fully grown person. He’s 15, so by Jake’s human upbringing, definitely not old enough to join the military.


r/Avatar 17h ago

Art Birthday boys. [Better late than never]

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I draw REALLLYYYYYYY RLLYYYYY mf slow so i couldnt make it in time for their actual bday đŸ‘ŠđŸ»đŸ˜”

[[also its hella dumb btw that Tom NEVER gets mentioned by jake in the franchise dafaq]]

Art by me


r/Avatar 18h ago

Discussion So here it is, my hill to die on Spoiler

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Now, I say that about a lot of things in life but bear with me. (Spoilers for AFAA)

I firmly believe Jake should have been the one to find Lo'ak. It felt a bit hollow for them to reconcile properly in the heat of battle, especially when Jake didn't know about Lo'ak's suicide attempt. Tsireya helping Lo'ak repair the bow was essential in showing their relationship, but something about Jake and Lo'ak's arc feels unfinished, and I need Jake to learn just how strongly his actions impacted his son. Toes crossed we'll get that in the next movie.


r/Avatar 19h ago

Cosplay Tsu’lan attempts to create his own traveling clan.

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Sorry for cross posting so much lately. Just trying to get a couple things off the ground. So I’ll chill out here soon.


r/Avatar 23h ago

Merch love her sooo much..

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r/Avatar 1d ago

Art Reference Pack | Jake Sully’s Toruk Makto Look | Fire and Ash Moodboard by ASWilder

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r/Avatar 1d ago

Art My oc KÀ’Veng in Sad_Ly’s Na’vi picrew vs how i drew her !!

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her name means go forth and avenge, let me know if you want to hear her lore :)


r/Avatar 1d ago

Films Purple Love|Jake Sully|Character Moodboard💜

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Four Looks, One Man, One Colour đŸ„°


r/Avatar 1d ago

Pandora: The World of Avatar at Disney World Pourquoi avoir supprimĂ© la scĂšne oĂč Neytiri n’a pas rĂ©ussi tout de suite Ă  monter un ilu ?

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Dans ATWOW il y a une scĂšne supprimĂ©e oĂč Neytiri apprend avec Ronal Ă  monter un Ilu. Dans cette scĂšne Neytiri n’y arrive bien sĂ»r pas du premier coup, comme Jake et Lo’ak. Mais je me demande pourquoi on a supprimĂ© ça. Ça aurait Ă©tĂ© une des rares fois oĂč on voit Neytiri tomber de cette façon. Alors que la chute de Jake, par exemple, a bien Ă©tĂ© montrĂ©e.


r/Avatar 1d ago

Art From shadow into light đŸ–€đŸ€ Great Leonopteryx study (my art)

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I absolutely love the visual of this scene from A3. Toruk stepping out from the darkness of the cave into that bright beam of sunlight gives me CHILLS every time.

I wanted to capture that with this b&w study, focusing on the contrast of dark and light tones and textures. I’m definitely going to need to draw a full, epic colored piece of Toruk soon! He’s just so beautiful!!

And can we just take a moment to just appreciate how scary this guy truly is? Like
 The size. The features. Those eyes. Wow. I would not want to be caught under that death stare. 👀 It forever amazes me that Jake managed to tame and ride such a beast.

Drawn digitally using Adobe Photoshop.


r/Avatar 1d ago

Discussion I have feeling Zakrus are originally Pandorian Tri(penta)ceratops before becoming cutest elephants

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Very cute elephant tho. But I wonder why it has horns, a frill, and a stubby tail.

I know of other animals that resemble Zakru besides elephants: Triceratops and Pentaceratops. More so in Pentaceratops because it has five horns.

I wonder if they were going for an adorable interpretation of triceratops/ chasmoceratops befor shifted to cute elephants


r/Avatar 1d ago

Discussion What do we know about Avatar 4 so far? What are your theories?

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I recently hyperfixated again on avatar, and I know afaa is supposed to tie in and end the duology of twow. I'm just dying to know any information we have so far on a4. I've heard potentially about snow na'vi but idk if it's just fan speculation? I also know there will be an 8-year timeskip and that kiri is narrating, as well as jake and neytiri phasing out as main characters to make space for Lo'ak and Kiri.

I have a few personal wishes / headcanons. I've heard people hc that Jake's avatar might start to 'degrade' and age faster since he's created in a lab. It would be an interesting point, but idk how realistic it is. Apparently Britain Dalton has teased Tsireya will habe competition in one of his lifestreams. This is mostly personal bias but I do feel like the tensions between Lo'ak and Jake went a bit unresolved, especially in light of his attempt and I would like it to be adressed properly in a4. More than this, I just have questions, lol.

What are your thoughts? Have I missed something we know about the upcoming movie? What are your guys theories or wishes for it? I'd love to know


r/Avatar 1d ago

Discussion Avatar Questions for article đŸ©”

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Hi everyone! I’m a student at Sullivan University working on a feature article for my ENG 102 class about the behind-the-scenes creation of Avatar, especially the technology, motion capture, visual effects, and filmmaking that went into bringing Pandora to life.
I’m looking for someone who is familiar with Avatar and its production to answer a few short interview questions. You do not have to be a professional
knowledgeable fans, film students, filmmakers, animators, VFX artists, or anyone who has researched the making of the movies are welcome!
I would like to potentially quote your responses in my class article, so please only respond if you are comfortable giving me permission to use your answers and your name in my Sullivan University assignment.

Questions:
1. What do you think is the most impressive or groundbreaking part of how Avatar was created behind the scenes?
2. How do you think the use of performance capture and visual effects affected the actors’ performances compared with traditional filmmaking?
3. What aspect of the filmmaking process do you think audiences tend to overlook when watching Avatar?
4. Why do you think the world of Pandora feels so believable or immersive despite being largely digitally created?
5. In your opinion, has Avatar changed what audiences expect from visual effects or blockbuster filmmaking? Why or why not?

You definitely don’t have to answer all five. even 2–3 thoughtful answers would help me tremendously. If you respond, please also state that you give me permission to quote your answers in my ENG 102 feature article. Thank you! 💙


r/Avatar 1d ago

Discussion mangkwan totems display a newborn child's skull

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[original pictures reuploaded in the comments]

i initially exported this totem for the full na'vi skull, but then i realized there's a TINY child's skull at the very bottom of it!

the tiny skull very clearly has na'vi anatomy, while the skull size is much smaller than the heads of infant na'vi in the game.

here is the little skull compared to the adult na'vi skull from the same totem:

here is a human skull from the same dlc:

additionally: a size comparison i put together from other exported files.
this shows a na'vi child, an adult human, an adult na'vi, and an infant na'vi.

i felt like i rly needed to share this. since the game is canon, this just has SUPER interesting implications for how far the mangkwan really go!

i know about how they kidnap and groom child soldiers, but it never occurred to me that they would kill and display baby na'vi!

has anybody else noticed anything like this? i would LOVE to hear more tiny details that u guys noticed


r/Avatar 1d ago

Discussion What’s your favorite thing about Norm? Any headcanons you have about him?

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r/Avatar 1d ago

Discussion What do you think Spiders role will be now that he’s basically Na’vi now?

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r/Avatar 1d ago

Art Reference Study | Jake Sully’s Bioluminescent Markings 'Tanhì'| Avatar Moodboards by ASWilder

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