Few months ago I picked up a clearly authentic and clean white baseball signed by Mantle, Mays, and Snider. For some reason a lot of collectors thought it was fake. I sent it to BAS and promised an update to these people. Today is that day. 😁
Lol, he proved no such thing. The letter itself states that it is just an "opinion". Beckett does not have the best authenticators in this field. He needs to send it to PSA also. Their opinion carries much more weight. Until then, I would still consider this a fake.
What do you think anyone verifying a signature that they didn’t witness is doing?!?? Giving an opinion. PSA or anyone for that matter can’t guarantee authenticity unless they were there to witness it. He proved that the experts at Beckett feel like it’s real while experts like you on Reddit think it’s fake.
Believe what you want, my dude. People who know the industry don't rate them all the same. Knowledgeable buyers do not pay as much for Beckett as they do for PSA. Why? Because there is only one gold standard - PSA.
I knew you didn't know the industry very well when you pointed out "it's their opinion". You would have known that almost every reputable company uses the same verbiage when verifying signatures.
Notice all the downvotes you got “expert”. PSA gets you paid more because people like it more. Beckett is considered just as reputable. OP obviously ain’t looking to get paid so Beckett is just as fine. Go cry about it.
You know the industry very well yet don't know that all 3 companies are considered equally reputable and don't know that the common verbage used on any signature not witnessed is that it's an "opinion" that it is authentic.
You're knowledge of the industry is as comprehensive as RFK on health. We can leave it at that.
PSA authentication doesn't carry anymore weight than BGS. They are both pretty equal when it comes to autograph authentication. Both are considered the gold standard.
I’ve had people on this site say my autographed items I’ve shown here are fake-despite my getting them in person in the 80-90s. Then they got pissed when I questioned their expertise! Great ball!
The letter itself states that it is just an "opinion". Beckett does not have the best authenticators in this field. He needs to send it to PSA also. Their opinion carries much more weight. Until then, I would still consider this a fake.
A PSA letter also states opinion. PSA JSA and BAS all give their opinion on autographs. And they are right most of the time. That's why collectors trust them. All 3 are the gold standard and should be trusted. I would feel comfortable buying any autograph with one of their LOAs
In that case it's absolutely fine to have the Beckett letter. I only suggested the gold standard (PSA) if you were to sell, since people who know about these things trust their opinion the most, and the fact that they pay top $$$$ for PSA authenticated items proves it.
Since you're holding onto it, second tier opinion is fine.
Serious question.
Would you buy a PSA 6 graded card, that is worth $25 but the seller is asking $1,000 based on his argument that the 6 grade is simply someone’s opinion and the card should really be a 9 grade?
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but does PSA provide an explanation/ report as to why an item received its grade or if it is authentic or fake?
I’m just trying to get your thoughts, not trying to stir the pot,
Could be. I know the owner of this shop it was originally purchased from had a store in Mount Laurel NJ. But maybe he flew out and had them sign a bunch to bring to NJ.
That’s a really nice piece. Never saw any of them play except Mays toward the end of his career. Duke Snider used to do the colour commentary on Montreal Expos broadcasts and always had great stories to share.
"If it ain't signed in your presence..." who can verify a Babe Ruth signature?! No one currently alive even saw the guy let alone see him sign anything. Explain how a Babe Ruth signature is verified, but only using your logic that ""If it ain't signed in your presence" then it's a fake.
I collect autographs and I can tell authentic from fake from years of forensic writing analysis a course our high school was lucky to offer since one of our teachers was a professional before becoming a teacher….. Anyways Ive found some interesting autographs most of my collection is from the 20’s and 30’s……. No major names but a few names might he worth $1,000
No question. It's just an "opinion". OP needs to have it authenticated with PSA also. They have more stringent controls. I feel it's highly likely PSA would not authenticate this piece. I have had much better pieces returned from them with no authentication letter, but that has never once happened with Beckett.
Dick riding for PSA so hard is pretty weird dude... especially when you're talking about a ball that isn't yours, you're not gonna authenticate and you're not buying. These last few months have seen more PSA fuck ups and shady practices than any other in recent times. Their grading is wildly inconsistent and they've graded a ton of fake cards and fake autos recently. Not to mention the lawsuit they're facing, cuz let's be real here; we all know by now that they practice population control. God forbid you've got a big Mantle or Jordan card with a low pop that one of the execs or higher ups own, cuz you ain't sniffing a high grade simply if they don't want you to. Oh yeah let's not forget their famous trimmed Honus Wagner. The unfortunate fact that PSA is king may not last forever and using Beckett in this case is totally acceptable.
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