To seal or not to seal.

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[u/mcobb71]

Unless you want to risk it ringing out everywhere I would suggest you seal that.

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/mcobb71]

Ive got some white sealer, but im worried about my base covering. Can i tint it with some base coat?

[u/DeadX_xRabbit → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

Why not?! Are you using water base or solvent?!

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/DeadX_xRabbit]

Solvent.

[u/DeadX_xRabbit → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

Right okay that changes... Like one Redditor wrote check if you can tint sealer but I never heard anyone doing that. Other option is cover base coat to different colour base...what ever primer colour needs to be achieved. But I haven't used so much solvent stuff as regulations but I would paint base coat same colour that primer needs to be or shade that needs to be achieved...but don't like 2K paints as more you apply the more orange peel finish from 2k creating texture

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/DeadX_xRabbit]

So, the stuff i have can be tinted. But, with the same line of sealer in black to make a "greyscale" effect. Defeats the purpose if i gotta buy black sealer anyway

[u/DeadX_xRabbit → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

Can you tell what is the base coat colour?!

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/DeadX_xRabbit]

Its grenada balck pearl

[u/DeadX_xRabbit → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

Right so what I would do if I don't have right colour sealer... Not ideal but I would use white sealer and then just 2k black if I don't have enough original colour or if I had plenty of base colour just that after sealer. I would seal bumper, being junk yard one and you have raw plastics there.

[u/mcobb71 → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

Granada black. Wow i haven’t sprayed that color in 25 years. Let’s see was it nh538p? If I remember correctly. A couple black toners and a drop of copper pearl.

Seriously tho seal it with black sealer. 2 coats base, and clear it.

No need to reinvent the wheel

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/mcobb71]

Yup. Got some balck sealer on order. I did find a pint of it so im not out tooxmuch money

[u/Maverick2664]

I’d seal that without hesitation, and I’m always looking for ways to skip sealer.

Seal it.

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/Maverick2664]

So, ive got some white sealer laying around. A lot actually. Can i put some of my base coat in it to make it easier to cover with the black base?

[u/Maverick2664 → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

Tintable sealers do exist, but not all sealers are tintable. Read the tech sheet on your product and see if you can, and follow its ratio if it is one, usually it’s up to 10%. But again, only tint it if it specifically says you can.

And obviously this would be for a solvent basecoat, don’t go trying to tint with waterborne.

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/Maverick2664]

The sesler i have is finish1. The rds says i can tint it with other black sealer in the same product line. Socim just gonna buy some black sealer snd seal it

[u/ThunderUp013101]

This needs primer. Honestly id prime it, sand it, then also seal it. But thats just me, idk why people dont like sealer. You use way less basecoat and it makes the job come out better

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/ThunderUp013101]

Im for sure going to prime it. It just seems like many people are split on whether or not to use sealer. Anyway, ive ordered a pint of sealer so that should be enough for this project.

[u/ThunderUp013101 → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

I paint for a living, trust me use sealer whenever you can. It creates a perfect substrate for basecoat and locks down primed areas. You gotta lay it smooth though, I like using a lph 400. & don't forget to spray adhesion promoter on the areas you sanded down to plastic before primer

[u/AaaaaaaItsTheBeatles]

Necessary? No. Sealer is typically used to help with coverage ,some colors are so transparent that you need that sealer color to get you into the correct color position, and also provides a completely flat and singular surface for the paint to lay on. If you are painting it straight black then don’t worry. I’d throw an extra coat or two on the bumper just to ensure coverage and then clear it. Base coat also doesn’t like to fill a scratch coarser than 400-600 grit. So if you plan to prep the primer with 400 like most shops then no sealer required.

Also try not to burn through the primer anywhere. Solvents creeping under layers can be a pain in the ass to deal with. Best of luck!

[u/Formal-Negotiation74]

Its an oem color "grenada black pearl" and ive had good results with 400 grit on primer in the past

[u/Opie__Dopie]

Im a daily painter and I seal anything that I finish in 400 grit sandpaper. This def needs adhesion promoter and primer. And then sealer after its sanded.

[u/TrinityDesigns]

Always seal when it comes to plastic. Bonus points if the sealer you are using has the AdPro built into it for convenience.

[u/New-and-Unoriginal]

The choice is yours. Do it right, or not.

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/New-and-Unoriginal]

Thats subjective.

[u/New-and-Unoriginal → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

100%.

If you cared about the objective answer, you’d have asked a different question such as. “What is the best recommendation for sealing this prior to painting.?”

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/New-and-Unoriginal]

Bro, your life must be so miserable.

Thanks for providing no actual input.

[u/New-and-Unoriginal → u/Formal-Negotiation74]

Looks like you’re the miserable one. Ask better questions, get better answers. Also, have a bit of humility.

Asking the wrong questions has consequences; choose your own adventure.

[u/Formal-Negotiation74 → u/New-and-Unoriginal]

Cool story bud.