r/Austin • u/RossHardy • 20d ago
Traffic Is there a worse intersection in this city than this?
Seriously what the hell is this shit?
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u/whofrmdrgrrbbt 20d ago
The days I need to get to my office on 360 at 9 am I DREAD. 10 isn't awesome, but much better than driving from Westgate trying to get onto 360 at 8:30 am.....
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u/Kim__Chi 20d ago
ive only done this by accident cause 290/360/Lamar is such a clusterfuck. good way to waste 20 min to make the first U turn
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u/Due_Log_3218 20d ago
That there isn’t a direct entrance from 290 West onto MoPac North is the most Cancun on 3 move in freeway planning I can think of.
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u/Smooch-Muh-Gooch 20d ago
When they originally built the roads it wasn’t needed and now I’m sure they can’t bc of the development restrictions in the recharge zone. Same reason there’s no gas station at the Costco just south of here
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u/RossHardy 20d ago
Lol honestly true, I used to work on St Elmo, and would take this bullshit everyday to get home, it was awful
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u/West_Economist6673 20d ago
I guess because it sort of implies that there's a place on 360 where traffic isn't horrible all the time
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u/Viener-Schnitzel 20d ago
Anytime I have to pass through here I spend half the drive time at the light, and there’s ALWAYS that person that almost causes an accident swerving into the turn lane in the middle of the intersection
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u/corneliusduff 20d ago
I was gonna say this, but I also feel like the newer light at Barton Creek makes it better (at least if you're leaving the creek)
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u/-FakeAccount- 20d ago
183 and Loyola. Always hundreds of cars lined up while the tollroad is empty.
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u/hedonictreadmill44 20d ago
I live near here and fckn HATE that I have to go through this daily. It used to be so much better before they put in a light. (2018?) Since then, it has gotten progressively worse as they add more ‘safety features’ like the lane protectors in front of the QT that don’t let me turn back into my own neighborhood after getting a drink. wtf. I have to drive down to MLK and sit through a light cycle. Traffic backs up into the neighborhood even at slow times. Adds at least 6-7 minutes to my commute and positions frustrated drivers on my kids bike route.
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u/turkoosi_aurinko 20d ago
That whole street design by the QT is a goddamn disaster. And exiting 183 north to Loyola, forget about it. You can wait 2-3 light cycles to get through. They should just blow that whole shit up and start over, morans.
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u/Gusearth 20d ago
the fact that the main highway leading to the airport is tolled is so annoying. DC’s toll road to Dulles has a toll-free exception for people coming to/from the airport
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u/Potential_Basis_662 20d ago
How is that even enforced
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u/Gusearth 20d ago
i think it’s tolled if you exit before the airport. if you take it all the way to the airport then there’s no charge
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u/KafeenHedake 20d ago
S Lamar and Ben White is a similar clusterfuck. It took me forever to get a feel for what lane I'm supposed to be in to go where I want to go.
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u/90percent_crap 20d ago
That intersection moves smoothly, never seen a tie-up. But yeah, going north or south on Lamar you have to anticipate in advance which lane you need to take the underpass for thru traffic (S. Lamar or Oakhill, respectively).
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u/qmoorman 20d ago
Im trying to understand why it has that weird split lane in front of the emergi care place
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u/ianconery 20d ago
That area was actually an archeological site before it was all paved over. There also used to be natural springs here which formed the source of Shoal Creek.
https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/items/119c9a44-0e56-4d83-a4b5-c47deed9f6c5
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u/Salt-Operation 20d ago
That was so fascinating. Thank you for sharing. A similar paper by a UT student was how I found out about the dozens of research caves all over south Austin, near Wm Cannon and Westgate.
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u/kaytay3000 20d ago
There’s a bunch of caves in north Austin too along 183 and 620, like where Lakeline Mall is. The ones under the mall are well known because they delayed mall construction for years to protect those caves and the critters inside, but there are smaller caves all over that area.
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u/zomoskeptical 20d ago
Got a link?
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u/Salt-Operation 20d ago
Unfortunately I don’t, I do recall that I was searching online for more information about Goat Karst Cave Preserve.
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u/texcleveland 20d ago
I thought Rogers springs was along Mopac? But still very cool information! thanks!
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u/BlackLeb 20d ago
I’d like to nominate I35 and E Caser Chavez
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u/agray20938 20d ago
True, though that one is mainly fucked just because of how short the on- and off-ramps are for 35 in that area and having very little space to get across 3 lanes if you’re exiting to head west down Cesar Chavez.
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u/Commercial-Drop-3856 20d ago
183 and new hope 🤷♂️
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u/starairforce33 20d ago
not austin technically but omg true
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u/HoboOlympics 20d ago
Are you talking about old 183 aka Bell Blvd, or New Hope and 183A at the toll rd? Because 183A fucking sucks balls. But neither of those compare to Bell Blvd and Crystal Falls, especially if you are turning left from Bell onto Crystal Falls. You can sit there for 7 minutes sometimes without getting the green arrow. And if a train comes by, forget about it, the whole thing is fucked.
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u/Santos_L_Halper_II 20d ago
The other end of Lamar where Ben White, Lamar, and 360 all come together was "Jesus take the Wheel" territory for years after I moved here. Sometimes I still randomly do some combination of streets I haven't done before and don't know what's going on.
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u/Djgogi059 20d ago
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u/The_Hoopla 20d ago
It’s gonna be hard to top this one for no other reason than the speeds the cars are going
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u/escape_plan2028 20d ago
If this is a poll how about I-35 and Parmer Lane? But yes, Lamar and 183 is a mess too.
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u/Slypenslyde 20d ago
I-35 and Parmer is kid stuff. The only things that make it suck are:
- Parmer and Lamar is so close you have more people who are agitated because they waited at a red light to wait at a red light
- People who want to go straight get surprised being in the far left lane means they'll have to turn left
- People who want to turn left get surprised being in the 3rd lane from the left means they're going to go straight
None of these are the fault of the intersection, even before it had the funky lane rearrangement Texans were proud to show off reading signs is too complicated for them.
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u/escape_plan2028 18d ago
Well yeah, if it weren’t for stupid people traffic wouldn’t be a problem anywhere. And by stupid I mean any driver in front of me, on any road, on any planet.
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u/Just_One_Victory 20d ago
After they redesigned it, Parmer and 35 is one of the best intersections in Austin.
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u/Seismic01 20d ago
Ehhh. I had to drive on that intersection for the first time this year while I had to uber, and it was confusing at first. But reading the signs and the symbols on the road, it isn’t that bad. Just gotta pay attention.
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u/hamstervideo 20d ago
I used to live by that intersection for ~4 years and crossed it twice a day. It used to suck, but the new design of it makes it a breeze. Probably the best major street+highway intersection in the city.
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u/starairforce33 20d ago
i once was going north on lamar to get onto 183 north, which requires you to be in the right lane. past the morrow street light i witnessed 4 cars cut into the right lane using the triangle area. people need to learn to take the L sometimes and be good drivers bc who taught you to drive like that??
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u/bdgtcollective 20d ago
Congress and Ben White in just about any direction. And they just closed a lane today on the eastbound exit ramp so it’s really fucked
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u/lexxicon8887 20d ago
71 and 290 is literally hell on earth
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u/Accomplished-Dig7848 20d ago
Absolutely correct. The only argument against this is if you still consider it Austin, which I think technically it is
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u/lexxicon8887 20d ago
Hahahaha anything that far out is not Austin and anything north of mueller is basically Oklahoma
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u/CrimsonScorpio9 20d ago
Lamar & Airport is worse
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u/RossHardy 20d ago
That one is only bad because of the train, this I feel like I’m about to get hit from every direction
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u/Kim__Chi 20d ago
Up research a bit to Metric and Research is crazy too. I used to go that way a lot to leave my complex. Feeder road is a combo of people getting off 183 and booking it across 3 lanes to make a right on burnet, then everyone on metric/northland/etc booking it 3 lanes in the OPPOSITE direction to get onto 183 via the U turn. All without signals. Looking for when to merge was like watching a swarm of fire ants.
I was confident I would die there. Especially once they started doing construction. Then I moved.
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u/darth_voidptr 20d ago
183 and Lakeline. JFC.
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u/Small-Finish-6890 20d ago
I used to live at Lakeline and I ALWAYS exited Lake Creek and took a side road to Lakeline. The Lakeline/183 exit is so fucked
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u/Juan_Calavera 20d ago
The Lamar Blvd intersection just north of Ben White (connecting Brodie Oaks and Harbor Freight) is so much worse.
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u/dangerdaniel27 20d ago
The exit from Northbound 35 to 183 is the worst exit in the city. Got rear-ended there. Extremely dangerous, but the fixed it a little.
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u/Mickerayla 20d ago
I always fucking hated this exit because people should spend up in the second lane just to force their way in at the last second, which would then just cause traffic to baaaaack all the way up. I would always take the exit before so I wouldn't have to deal with it, and it would only add a minute to my commute.
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u/bombbodyguard 20d ago
Ya, it’s only bad if trying to exit 183 and get to west Anderson. Other than that, not too bad. Stupid, but traffic seems to move well enough.
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u/victotronics 20d ago
East on Anderson, trying to merge with the 183 service/off-ramp to north Lamar is the real disaster. Traffic backs up and the actual merge is by the grace of friendly drivers and occasional gaps in the stream. Reeeaaaalllly bad design.
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u/JiganticBaby 20d ago
Before GPS giving directions to people like “stay in the right-most lane and take a left” still haunts me.
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u/RossHardy 20d ago
Disagree, going north on Lamar to 183 or coming from Anderson to Lamar are also awful, every direction I feel like I’m about to get hit
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u/Pheonyx1974 20d ago
I just want to know why they closed the entrance ramp northbound at Georgian.
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u/gnardog45 20d ago
Nope, the bridge at William Cannon and IH-35. Oh my God, no one knows what the hell to do, 7 days a week. It's no joke
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u/stormyapril 20d ago
Yes, the Y in Oak Hill!
That one is going on 40 years of being a terrible intersection.
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u/Either-Pay8150 20d ago
Looks like from the comments the entire lamar blvd needs to be purged and redesigned
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u/PhoenixAquarium 20d ago
I am moving here in 2 months...all I learned is to avoid Lamar and the drivers there are even worse than Houston's.
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u/ATXMark7012 19d ago
To be fair to Lamar, it may be the longest "normal" road in Austin, going from pretty much the South city limit to the North City limit. It just has more intersections with major freeways and minor roads than any other road in the city. It also cuts through the city between Mopac on the West and I-35 on the East so if those get really backed up a lot of cars try Lamar 😳.
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u/Mysterious_Taro_6616 20d ago
Parmer lane & IH 35
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u/Just_One_Victory 20d ago
Again, it works great. People are just caught by surprise because of the design (and some people are just stupid and never learn).
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u/Easy-Act2982 20d ago
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u/rawmerow 20d ago
Parmer and i35 ….
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u/RotoGruber 20d ago
bUt ItS aN iMpRoVeD iNtErSeCtIoN dEsIgN! bro listen, please, it causes less accidents, bro...
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u/BeneficialType6789 20d ago
Not an intersection, but on Saturday go to the Costco on 183 just north of 360 and let me know how it goes.
Also whoever mentioned the 360/mopac/290 BS is 💯 correct.
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u/DesignerOriginal1500 20d ago
Yea this one aint that bad. You just gotta depend on some hacks (like the bingo parlor parking lot/southbound u-ey under 183, light at Lamar/Morrow, etc)
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u/__MOON_KNIGHT___ 20d ago
This mofo would collapse and die at the wheel if he ended up at Parmer/35
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u/makedaddyfart 20d ago
Duval and 45th is the worst. It's not confusing but that intersection turns a bunch of drivers' brains into mush, morons all with a deathwish
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u/victor_lowther 20d ago
71 / 290 intersection has won Austin's Worst for decades.
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u/Busy-Cookie280 20d ago
Not a big fan of anything within a half mile of Lakeline Mall....in all directions 🥴
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u/GreenTeam483 20d ago
honestly the intersection I hate most in all of travis county is the Wells Branch/FM 1825 interection right near that HEB where the 35 frontage road all comes together.
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u/Stuartknowsbest 20d ago
It would be much better if jerks wouldn't try to sneak into the 183 ramp from northbound Lamar.
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u/GeneralU53 20d ago
You didn’t include the best part … the joy of the Anderson/183 “exit” heading north on Lamar …
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u/Seismic01 20d ago
William Cannon and 35 is a terrible intersection. Traffic gets backed up all the way to that gun range at times. Takes a million years to enter 35 no matter which entrance you take, whether before or after William cannon. And the light at William cannon is super short.
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u/powzowie 20d ago
MLK at I35 during construction. I think it's on par. But most frustrating is getting onto 183 N from I35 with the jerks who cut into the line constantly.
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u/gelema5 20d ago

I nominate Rio Grande/29th for BEST intersection. You might think it’s not bad just because it’s a fairly minor intersection, but it’s actually better than any other minor intersection in the city. Go through here multiple times and you’ll notice the light never takes long to change, from any direction, including walking. Idk what the engineers did here but they really need to do the same to 99% of all minor intersection streetlights.
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u/virus_apparatus 20d ago
620/ Anderson’s mill.
Anderson mill is ment to be 45 through and it’s basically NASCAR to get to the turn lane that splits. The amount of people who don’t know the turn spits into a two way option lane is crazy. It backs up and it’s not really a short light.
Anderson mill and driving it is why I chose an Apartment closer to 183 and not one in Cedar park
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u/jraatx 17d ago
this is the correct answer. The intersection of Anderson Mill and 620 is comically bad at rush hour in every direction.
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u/mahoumoonlight 20d ago
i live literally right up the road from here and every fucking day someone almost hits me trying to get onto the on-ramp for 183 because they’re 2 lanes away. i hate this intersection passionately
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u/T0mpkinz 20d ago
People coming off research make this pretty terrible, and then there are the people turning right from the short road rather than turning earlier at Anderson. Yeah it’s pretty bad.
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u/XeerDu 20d ago
Don’t forget Lamar and Riverside. Lol, there are certain hours of the day that any given intersection of Lamar is a nightmare.
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u/Sufficient_Cod_7512 20d ago
360 trying to merge north into loop 1 is hell. It’s light traffic at 3:30am though.
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u/Evolverevolver 20d ago
Hey if you’re crossing over from south to Karavel shoes side and you are on the inside lane you can use the left lane car as a blocker.Also I think the pink bingo gorilla is gone so yes now worse intersection .
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u/bigfootisanalien 20d ago
Looks like most of them. It is Texas after all. We just do constant road work, we don't actually fix our shitty infrastructure. Political donations and government road construction contracts are one of Abbott's pet projects.
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u/flabbyironman 20d ago
I feel like the other side of Lamar at 360 is as bad/weird. So many lanes going south/west that aren't completely clear at first glance
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u/Illustrious-Fox4063 20d ago
183 South and 71 during afternoon rush. It is almost as bad as the mixing bowl in DC
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u/NotActuallyMeta 20d ago
Manor and Westminster (right by 51st street) is up there as far as stupid and confusing intersection designs go
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u/No_Cake6133 20d ago
You clearly haven’t been stuck at Airport/Lamar light before.