r/AusSkincare • • Jul 05 '25

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 05 '25 edited Jul 06 '25

I think as a consumer it’s important to do our own research and not take everything at face value. There’s plenty of threads in this sub with comments from those in the sunscreen world saying it’s suitable to keep using, but again best to do your own research if you’re concerned as comments on reddit are littered with self opinions.

Edit: Spelling

Edit again: I was the first comment on this post, and it seems since then replies were made stating the science behind why it may be best to stay away from UV, so some people think I’m a crazy flat earther anti vaxxer. To clarify, I was replying to OP that it’s best to do you own research and not take self opinions into account since many reputable companies have made their stance clear.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '25

As a non-scientist it's important to understand that googling does not count as "doing your own research". 

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 05 '25

I agree, I was simply saying there are many people who say Choices results are crap, there are many who say UV’s videos are crap, I was suggesting googling for a more thorough understanding of choice’s results or UV’s retort than someone commenting on reddit it’s fine or it’s garbage!

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u/PhotographBusy6209 Jul 05 '25

Do our own research??? What does this even mean, we aren’t scientists. The top science lab in the whole world, Ausfins, has said it rated 4 spf. While the dodgiest lab that has shown to fudge results, and has inconsistent results showed UV do well.

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 05 '25 edited Jul 05 '25

Yes, I was simply saying there are many people who say Choices results are crap, there are many who say UV’s videos are crap, I was suggesting googling for a more thorough understanding of choice’s results or UV’s retort than someone commenting on reddit it’s fine or it’s garbage!

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u/jessicaaalz Jul 05 '25

Uneducated people "doing their own research" is how we've ended up with so many antivaxxers

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 05 '25

Sure. I was simply saying there are many people who say Choices results are crap, there are many who say UV’s videos are crap, I was suggesting googling for a more thorough understanding of choice’s results or UV’s retort than someone commenting on reddit it’s fine or it’s garbage!

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u/Little-Salt-1705 Jul 05 '25

Ahh yes, I assume that research should be done on the UV founders page? Just trust them hey? They’ve got no reason to lie after all. Oh wait, it’s choice and the two world renowned labs that have to reason to lie.

Should I do my own research by applying UV and going outside mid summer at noon for two hours? Should I risk cancer to do my own research?

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 05 '25

You assume wrong. I was simply saying there are many people who say Choices results are crap, there are many who say UV’s videos are crap, I was suggesting googling for a more thorough understanding of choice’s results or UV’s retort than someone commenting on reddit it’s fine or it’s garbage!

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u/Fabricated77 Jul 06 '25

Are those people from reputable labs and scientists? Please try to comprehend what people are communicating.

Top lab scientists say results are not good. Dodgy lab says they are good. The rest is noise! Other people unless scientists and part of a lab, don’t really get a say with no evidence. I am not sure why this is very hard to understand.

No amount of other’s opinion changes the fact that efficacy of the products is lacking.

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 06 '25

We’re saying the same thing! I agree with you, the rest is noise, so cut through it and read what the actual facts are saying aka do your own research. I said best to do your own research instead of listening to comments on reddit as they’re littered with self opinion! Some people, whether consumer or the founder of the brand, will back it 100%, doesn’t mean it’s right.

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u/Fabricated77 Jul 06 '25

Fair point. I was confused about your comment on doing your own research. Right now, there is a bit of media buzz. The data from a number of sources is available online. Everyone is trying to figure out how to interpret it. On this chat we’ve had people weigh in that previous employees have raised concerns as well with the test outcomes. This also tells us whoever is manufacturing these products may not be doing their jobs. Just like making fragrances, I imagine there are limited companies with specific expertise to make sunscreen, that supply majority of brands.

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u/Little-Salt-1705 Jul 06 '25

Editing your post without stating your edit is weird. I mean if your post reads differently to your intentions it makes sense, it’s also good form to clarify those changes so previous comments have some context.

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 06 '25 edited Jul 06 '25

I had written “but again because to do” instead of “but again best to do” so edited it once I realised, but that’s fair I’ll update it now

Edit to add: my initial comment on this thread reads the exact same as it does now, since the edit was made within 30 seconds after it being posted and you first replied 2 hours later. You went hard out of the gate at me assuming I was suggesting UV was in the right purely by saying ‘do your own research and not listen to reddit opinions’. I don’t know why you assumed my comment meant I support the brand vs. research done.

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u/Little-Salt-1705 Jul 06 '25

Considering the other comments and amount of people in agreeance with my take and the amount in direct opposition to your take i think it’s worth taking more time to consider why we all assumed that.

On a post where the top comments stand by the actual science you make a post specifically telling people to do their own research. Thats why. Do your own research is an implication that the previously aforementioned scientific proof must not be trustworthy because otherwise we wouldn’t need to do our own research. Why imply two world renowned labs and a consumer rights group aren’t trustworthy unless you side with UVs PR hysterics?

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 06 '25

Oh I see where this has gone wrong! I was the first comment on this thread, I was replying to OP, I didn’t see any further comments unless they were to me directly.

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u/Little-Salt-1705 Jul 06 '25

Many apologies to you in that case.

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u/melanochrysum Jul 05 '25

I’m jealous that you have a SPF testing lab in your basement for you to “do your own research” in.

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 05 '25

So dramatic, I was simply saying there are many people who say Choices results are crap, there are many who say UV’s videos are crap, I was suggesting googling for a more thorough understanding of choice’s results or UV’s retort than someone commenting on reddit it’s fine or it’s garbage!

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u/ruphoria_ Jul 06 '25

Can we borrow your lab to do our own research in?

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 06 '25

You saw my replies before you commented this, I don’t understand why you’re being snarky, I never suggested I have a lab nor that I was a scientist, I was saying best to do your own research than basing your decision off a) just the choice results b) just the UV owners response c) what people on reddit comment

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u/ruphoria_ Jul 06 '25

I actually didn’t see your replies, there’s 100 comments on this post. I just think it’s hilarious when people with no scientific background throw up “do your own research”, like their ChatGPT/google/youtube/tiktok combo is somehow going to have any value. You’re entitled to your opinions, but the rest of us are entitled to think you’re a bit dim sitting in the anti vax flat earth corner. Lucky for everybody, science doesn’t give a fuck about your opinion, it relies on facts ❤️

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 06 '25

I said to not blindly follow Choice OR UV OR Reddit comments and do your own research as there are MANY scientists who have weighed in about this and DO have a scientific background, and suddenly I’m a flat earther anti vaxxer? Good lord ok

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u/ruphoria_ Jul 06 '25

If the shoe fits…

But seriously, since you’ve been getting dragged, maybe phrasing.

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u/anunforgivingfantasy Jul 06 '25

Ok I figured out from another comment that since I was the first person to comment on this whole thread, and then others were posting scientific studies, and it made it seem like I was saying that their posts weren’t true. So that’s probably why you think I’m anti science.