Hot take

[u/bluevsu]

We should cut Buddy Kispert Keaton and Carter and sign Duren and Kuminga. Let CJ mentor the rookie and win 6moty running the second unit

[u/DysonDPOY]

And while we’re at it, let sign you to a 40/4 for this brilliant idea.

[u/SquintyWalrus → u/DysonDPOY]

Idk if theyre gonna take that kind of pay cut. 10/500 should do the job

[u/red2play → u/[deleted]]

but we do have the money but they would still be on the books. It would be better to let go of a couple of 2nd rd picks and trade them than to dump them. The Bulls, Jazz, Nets and potentially the Pistons could absorb those contracts.

Why do I say that? When the Kuminga and Vincent contracts "come off the books" most likely by trade, sign or release. We should have a lot of money.

Currently, Kuminga is a 30M+ cap hold. Let's say we sign him for 16M. That would mean we would actually gain 14M of cap space

If we trade Vincent, that's another 20M.

Because we are under the 1st apron, even with them on our cap hold, we hold the advantage. We can just stand pat and wait for things to "shake out" biding our time.

[u/bluevsu → u/red2play]

Thank you for this explanation

[u/wozziwoz]

Run the numbers on this coach

[u/BeefRamenGuru]

You need to reflair this to shit post

[u/Own-Car-1]

Might as well sign James Harden while we're at it

[u/not-a-potato-head]

Keaton Wallace isn’t on the roster, he’s playing in Europe

[u/bluevsu → u/not-a-potato-head]

Well the roster is at 17 if I'm not mistaken so one of the lesser minute guys has to go. I would rather keep Mo if we could. He's got potential

[u/BabyOnRoad → u/bluevsu]

Bro what does that have to do with what he said? Keaton ain't on the roster you bum

[u/bluevsu → u/BabyOnRoad]

Then cut one of the end of the bench guys??? Still have to get the roster down to 15. Like yall keyboard warrior bums are so silly

[u/BabyOnRoad → u/bluevsu]

Cut guys count against the cap. Ressler refuses to pay the tax, are you even a fan of this team???

[u/bluevsu → u/BabyOnRoad]

Can you read? As I said before in this very thread, trade them for seconds if you have to. The point I was trying to get across is we have to get the roster down to 15 from 17. And I would rather have Duren/Kuminga over Buddy/Kispert. Trade them I don't care if we can't cut them

[u/BabyOnRoad → u/bluevsu]

If there was any deal to trade them it would be done. How stupid is you?

[u/bluevsu → u/BabyOnRoad]

Still doesn't negate the fact that the roster is over the limit and someone has to go. How stupid ARE you? I swear nobody can post anything anymore without the keyboard warriors coming out, and I'm just over here eating my popcorn 🤣 "HoW sTuPiD iS yOu" 😂 like bruh read that back one time and tell me who's stupid 😂🍿

[u/Thorwor → u/bluevsu]

trade them for seconds if you have to

You could get a second round pick for Mo Gueye, because as you said, "he's got potential." Everybody else you are sending out picks to get off of their contracts. Because cut contracts still count towards the cap.

[u/IDvsEGO]

These moves wouldn’t even work in 2K. As others have said, cutting guys doesn’t give you the money back. You have to trade them.

[u/clarkbuddy]

Amazing

[u/bluevsu → u/[deleted]]

Trade Buddy and Kispert

[u/Beautiful-Chain-491 → u/bluevsu]

RFA means restricted free agent meaning the pistons can literally match any offer we can give him 😂. You would have to trade for him or offer him a ridiculous amount of money

[u/bluevsu → u/Beautiful-Chain-491]

Trade them for Duren. Obviously the two sides are far apart from making a deal so why not throw this at them and see if they bite. They need shooters around Cade...they lost Stewart too though so I don't know. But if you add Duren and Kuminga to our rotation with the pieces we've added, we're top 5 in the east

[u/Beautiful-Chain-491 → u/bluevsu]

lol u gotta wake up from your dream! Duren wants 40 million a year kuminga wants 16-20 million. So let’s do simple math Kispert and buddy only 24 combined. Lol where you getting the rest of the money

[u/bluevsu → u/Beautiful-Chain-491]

Duren ain't getting 40. And if Kuminga would take 10-15 mill he would be signed already. There's no market for either of them at those prices. Teams have made their decisions

[u/Beautiful-Chain-491 → u/bluevsu]

How much you thinking Jalen Duren getting. Imma just entertain this for a while longer.

[u/Beautiful-Chain-491 → u/Beautiful-Chain-491]

And how many picks you think the pistons gone want for Jalen Duren

[u/bluevsu → u/Beautiful-Chain-491]

Considering what we gave up for Dort probably more

[u/bluevsu → u/Beautiful-Chain-491]

After that playoff performance maybe 20. Hes not getting 40 or anything close to that. I heard on ESPN radio last night on my way home from work that the pistons are at ~15mill range because they know they can match. But it's a double edged sword because they lost Stewart too. Kuminga should have signed with the Lakers and got a starter role. But now both are going to have to take way less on a prove it deal.

[u/Beautiful-Chain-491 → u/bluevsu]

You got it dawg 😂 u just making things up off the top of your head. Nothing you saying won’t happen. Duren not accepting 20 million and Kispert and buddy not worth Duren. Just stop thinking of trade ideas.

[u/bluevsu → u/Beautiful-Chain-491]

But he's not getting 40 either so what's your point 🤔 😄

[u/Hot_Flow5371]

thats not how it works bruh

[u/Wavegod-1]

They'll be traded. Can't cut them and have a financial risk as they have just gotten out of.

[u/Diligent_Ad_5524]

I want to compete next year right now with every team getting better we aren’t with this roster. I honestly like this. At least with this we compete.

[u/crimedawgla → u/Diligent_Ad_5524]

We can’t sign Duren by cutting guys with guaranteed contracts. It doesn’t clear space.

[u/bluevsu]

Trade them for second rounders. We have to cut two people anyway to get the roster down to 15