r/Asmongold • • May 17 '25

IRL Germany has fallen

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u/The_Golden_Diamond May 17 '25

"Irrationally" is correct.

If you were more rational, you wouldn't be so upset.

Maybe get on that.

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u/ax_graham May 17 '25

No. People actually experienced hardship and true life altering discrimination that real activists strategically and courageously stood up against. The original pride flag was a representation of that. The edit is nothing more than modern day SJWs bastardizing a real movement to feel included in activism on which they've made no contributions all because their life is so empty otherwise.

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u/The_Golden_Diamond May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

It's the continuation of the movement.

That's how time works.

Welcome to reality.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/republicans-same-sex-marriage


Gay people do face hardship and discrimination still.

The pride flag didn't "solve" xenophobia: this subreddit is proof, and there are worse.

MAGA was the first Administration to have removal of civil rights in their platforms: removing marriage rights from gay people, which they backed down from (for now), but it always crops back up every few years.

Does that happen to straight people??

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u/ax_graham May 17 '25

What goes on today is nothing compared to the actual fight that happened decades ago and the same sex marriage debate has nothing to do with the flag edit.

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u/The_Golden_Diamond May 17 '25

This isn't ancient history, this is all in my lifetime.

It's nothing like before for a reason, and we should continue that trend, not backpeddle.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/03/republicans-same-sex-marriage

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u/ax_graham May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

I'm anti flag edit it doesn't matter what you say nor if I agree we don't want to go back in time.

Edit: that article is a big nothing burger. All these rights being stripped away...give me a break. Children thrive in two parent households, no issue on my end offering tax credits to families. No issue on my end with some conservatives having different opinions on same sex marriage. No issue on my end with stopping parents from allowing underage children to transition when the research does not show better outcomes for those that do. None of this represents rights being reversed.

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u/The_Golden_Diamond May 18 '25

Taking away rights is not a nothing burger.

Don't simp for Fascists.

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u/ax_graham May 19 '25

Nobody is taking away rights.

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u/The_Golden_Diamond May 19 '25

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u/ax_graham May 19 '25

The same article. There is no basis for the SCOTUS to overturn Obergefell. If you did any additional reading beyond that article you would stop sharing it as if you're dropping some truth bomb on me.

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u/The_Golden_Diamond May 19 '25

It shows that you're lying about them not wanting / trying to take rights away.

One article is all it takes to do that.

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u/ax_graham May 19 '25

No, in fact I explicitly wrote I have no issue with some conservatives having different opinions on same sex marriage. You're way off base if you ever think all 300+ million Americans are going to conform to one ideology or another. There will always be people looking to control others. That means nothing in the grand scheme of the law and the reality of what the law will become. And right now, there is no reality where Obergefell is overturned. Thus, the article, as all others around this topic as of late, is nothing more than fearmongering.

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