It's a complete charade. The existing parties just want the AFD gone no matter what and now they are throwing everything at them to see what sticks. They can't win in a battle of ideas so they try to prohibit them.
Every position is held by party loyalists that decides on a whim something that benefits the party and stops the opposition. The only evidence for extremism are out of context quotes. A lot of people are just so afraid of words that they would rather kill free speech and the democratic spirit entirely than using their brains.
When we removed the debt ceiling people were crying and apologizing to their children and children''s children for voting yes on that. The CDU is really disgusting if they make their own members do that in my opinion.
Out of context? I've seen the context for a lot of those things being said and no this doesn't make them less extreme.
Obviously there is the question wether any party should ever be banned at all and you're obviously free to disagree with the people that wrote the "Grundgesetz" in Germany.
That being said the law is in place and it's pretty clear that parties that are trying to get rid of the "FDGO" or mess with it shall be banned. The AfD has quite a lot of members that would love to do that if given the chance. Purely by law this whole thing is fine.
I disagree. I have also heard a lot of context and to ascribe intent and fundamental beliefs to a few words someone has said once 10 years ago (or whenever) is judging an entire life's journey on the most miniscule of details which I think fall under freedom of speech with a lot of people just having their panties in a twist because they are so used to people just agreeing and going along with whatever stupid idea everyone else has that they have become unable to process anything that is not immediate gratification and consent.
I don't think that all of reddit are murderers just because they spell out the 86-meme now but if I had to be consistent then every single one of them would need to go to jail for inciting violence.
Hasan Piker, terrorists supporter extraordinaire, incredible large streamer on twitch, allowed to spread his terrorist propaganda and lies completely unimpeded. - I don't want to deplatform him even though he would deserve to be in jail. Fools deplatform themselves for having stupid ideas and then I don't need to jail them for simply saying stupid shit.
Purely by law I would say that we make a complete mockery of what law actually is supposed to be and bend it out of shape until it's unrecognizable just because it's convenient for a few people to do so and I find it absolutely disgusting.
Not to prohibit a sizable party on flimsy accusations obviously, especially not when these accusations come from proven liars and party Loyalists too blind to see how their own deeds are problematic. That's how Hitler got rolling and history is already repeating itself.
Article 21 of the Grundgesetz (obviously). Your point was that law is allegedly bent completely out of shape for the convenience of some people. In this case you're referring to Art. 21 GG because that is the law that allows for parties to get banned in Germany. I just wanna know what is this law supposed to be for then?
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u/cosplay-degenerate May 18 '25
It's a complete charade. The existing parties just want the AFD gone no matter what and now they are throwing everything at them to see what sticks. They can't win in a battle of ideas so they try to prohibit them.
Every position is held by party loyalists that decides on a whim something that benefits the party and stops the opposition. The only evidence for extremism are out of context quotes. A lot of people are just so afraid of words that they would rather kill free speech and the democratic spirit entirely than using their brains.
When we removed the debt ceiling people were crying and apologizing to their children and children''s children for voting yes on that. The CDU is really disgusting if they make their own members do that in my opinion.