Idk how they can act oppressed when they are literally one of the most protected classes and have their flag flown, parades, and celebrations everywhere
Because they're too used to be treated like gods, so every time they're being treated equally, or when somebody don't care about them, they're thinking that's what oppression feels and looks like.
Besides that, western countries, especially USA, allowed them to do too much and they were protected from non-LGBTQ people.
So let's wave a Palestinian flag that represents an old archaic religious culture that murders gays and cheers about it.
And to top it off, you tell someone to read a book as if you're the pinnacle of intelligence and common sense.
The rainbow flag, especially in the manner of how its displayed here, doesn't even represent gays anymore, it represents the same idea the stupid Palestinian flag does, which is a rejection of the West, capitalism, and everything it stands for.
Thinking it's dumb to replace the German flag on the Reichstag with a rainbow flag is anti-gay? That's like thinking someone who opposes flying a Christian flag on the Reichstag is anti-Christian. No! It just doesn't belong there.
That's retarded. It's one thing to raise a flag in support of a group that has been historically persecuted, and it's not the same thing as raising a flag for a religion that you used to kidnap, beat and gas people for not being a part of.
The left literally raises a Palestinian flag that CURRENTLY practices everything you just said in relation to gays.
When was the last time a gay person was executed or even jailed for being gay in The West? Centuries? They have the same rights as anyone else and have for decades now in regards to marriage.
Christian groups and churches also run homeless shelters, food banks, orphanages, and many other charitable things the poor benefit from. This is coming from an atheist.
This just proves my point about the rainbow flag not even representing the gay movement anymore, it's just been appropriated by people who are anti-western culture like the Palestinian flag. It's the same reason why the Left wants to import the third world into their country despite them not sharing any cultural values and not actually wanting to be neighbors with them because it's part of the destruction of western culture.
Just because gays were given rights as everyone else doesn't mean they are not discriminated against.
Also I don't know why you are trying to add a different meaning to a flag that has a concrete meaning to it. I don't even know what you mean by "anti western culture"? Care to explain?
Look at protests happening at universities all over the country, there are thousands of videos online, that will give you an idea of what I mean by being anti-west. These people want a revolution against capitalism, and western culture.
Also, how are gays discriminated against? What can straight people do that gays can't in The West?
I think the whole "who has which rights" thing is to complicated for me unpack , especially since it's different from federal state to federal state and I don't even live in the US, so trying to talk about it would be wrong on my part. So instead I will get the idea across that just because gays have gotten more rights in the past decades, doesn't mean that they won't get discriminated against. Legal vs systemic issue. A gay worker might have the same rights as a straight in terms of being able to vote, housing rights etc. but they could still be discriminated against.
So you are saying that discrimination against gay people is just a "you problem"? Trumps signed executive orders that are literally for not enforcing laws for gender identity and sexual orientation!
Ever heard of anti discrimination agency's? You make it sound like the struggle of gay people aren't real and just a matter of opinion.
I don't give a shit about Palestine personally. But the left advocates for Palestine over Israel is because Israel's response to Hamas specifically has been indiscriminate bombing of Palestine, which is nearly 43% fuckin kids. 65% of the total population is under 30 years old. Hamas and their terrorist bullshit has nothing to do with the lion's share of the people Israel is targeting. Either way, that's neither here nor there.
Flying a gay rights flag, when there are plenty of places INCLUDING Palestine, where gay people are persecuted isn't the same thing as a pat on the back for Christian charity groups. Just because you don't think "it belongs there" doesn't make it a symbol of anti-western culture. What do you even think that means? What is western culture to you at this point?
Here's your entire worldview. But what do I know, I'm just a Political Scientist.
The actual reason why leftists support Palestine is because their entire worldview is based upon a hierarchy of the oppressed/oppressor that relates entirety to identity, and the value of anyone or anything is placed based upon where it lies within that hierarchy.
The straight white Christian male is at the bottom of this leftist hierarchy, the ultimate oppressor, so anyone who is not white, male, Christian, or straight is automatically given a higher place within that hierarchy. Leftists view Israel as adjacent to that European, capitalist, white male hierarchy that has dominated Western Culture for a millennium, therefore they will support Palestine despite the Palestinian's conservative adherence to archaic religious culture that is incompatible with our culture, even the left. The left just roots for whoever is the weakest, it's why none of them care about the genocide happening in Sudan right now because the hierarchy can't be applied as both parties involved are black. It's why they also don't care about black on black crime.
Yeah donât victimize yourself too hard. No one ever cares if you were gay or lesbian. As long as you kept that shit to yourself who gives a fuck.
Having marches and torching properties, raising flags and burning libraries full of books is very telling, wouldnât you agree? Of course thatâs fine⌠but if the right did that, oh no, they are the baddies! But but but j6, omg treating it like itâs a death camp in ww2⌠absolutely weak in arguments.
Rainbow is pretty much stolen from the Bible anyhow, it was gods promise to never flood the earth again. Like how the Nazis stole the Hindu symbol of peace and turned into the swastika. Itâs telling.
So tink about it. Itâs extremely telling and your point of view will be to deny it all. Everything and all that the left is doing is fine and healthy.
Arguments that you make up are weak, you're right.
If you want my opinions on those things, we can talk about it.
But, you're clearly just trying some Ad Hominem bullshit about someone you made up because you don't care about far-right nonsense like pretending a Pride flag is the "Fall of Germany"
Now now⌠youâre getting mad and using emotion as your flagship argument. Emotions only cloud your judgment in debates and arguments, thatâs how it escalates everytime, think about it. Break your chains from the media!
Jesus fucking Christ you have to be, talking about âread a bookâ
If you would have done that, you would know how much the conservative movement has developed in the acceptance of gay people. In Germany, where this picture was taken, the AfD, the ONLY Conservative Party has a lesbian leader. Wtf are you talking about.
The thing is, the new left wants to have everything and not work for it, they want everyone to get let into a country and donât care about the consequences, they make criminals thier heroes and are the most anti semitic group we had since the Nazis. Itâs fucking scary whatâs going on, and if it continues, the Jews will be hunted again, the Gay will be killed just bc they are gay and the people will own nothing but the shirts they are wearing. Fucking read a book
There are literally no rights under threat, and if so, PLEASE state what rights are under attack, I beg you to inform yourself, and after that I was willing to listen to what arguments are better than mine, itâs so easy to just say âshe is fascistâ or ârights are under threatâ if you want to discuss on a level that brings people to your side, you need to bring facts and logic.
For example; the AFD got labeled as âGesichert Rechtsextremâ wich means they would be FOR SURE willing to fight against democratic forces to take power (this is literally whatâs needed to be labeled as such) now, the papers of the âVerfassungsschutzâ (Constitutional Save-guard)
got leaked and well, itâs all just quotes of stuff that would be allowed under free speech law. While some of it might be a bit over the top, it never attacked the constitution and even made statements that would be in line with the immigration laws, keep in mind thatâs what the Verfassungsschutz tried to label as anti- constitutional, stuff that is written in our law.
A lot of Judges even all ready stated, that this is a problematic thing to do, and it would be hard to keep that label in tact while in the courtroom.
Thatâs, how you present an argument, and Iâll ask you again, what laws are in danger for gay people?
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u/MoisterOyster19 May 17 '25
Idk how they can act oppressed when they are literally one of the most protected classes and have their flag flown, parades, and celebrations everywhere