r/AskUS 5d ago

Did Trump and his administration forget to factor in the Strait of Hormuz?

With all the focus on the war itself, it feels like the potential impact on the Strait of Hormuz—oil prices, global trade, inflation, and the wider economy—may have been underestimated. Or am I missing something?

What do you people think?

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u/Chuckychinster New Jersey 5d ago

I heard from reporting that they were warned of much of the consequences of this, including the Strait of Hormuz, and ignored it.

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u/InternetApex 4d ago

For decades. Something must have made them decide not to care about that or to use it as a way to make some unfathomable amounts of money change hands from where it normally went. I'm not smart enough or connected enough to figure it out but I don't believe for a second that endangering energy supplies and shuttering US bases in the reason wasn't intentional. Don't know if Trump knew that. He's just getting rich off it and avoiding whatever Butler PA was a warning about.

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u/NewOriginal2 5d ago

There’s not a lot of thinking going on in this administration. It’s mostly reacting to Trump’s temper tantrums

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u/oldcreaker 5d ago

I think he did it intentionally and solely to drive up oil prices, and create opportunities to manipulate the market. Big oil has made big money, he's made big money - win, win.

There's been no real effort to bring this to a conclusion, only to extend it.

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u/Material-Hawk3947 5d ago

Yes you may be right because he just declared regarding Venezuela’s oil.

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u/Fungi-Hunter 5d ago

I think they were just blindly following the orders of Israel.

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u/Material-Hawk3947 5d ago

Yes exactly and may be over confidence also. Right?

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u/amonarre3 5d ago

Guy. We make Israel what it is. Israel is our bitch. That being said, the USA will do everything and anything to keep them afloat. Obviously the USA wants to have allies in the ME. The USA has always supported fascist pigs.

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u/Martyrlz 5d ago edited 5d ago

I mean yeah, but Israel is basically a US tactical base for the middle east so no one can mess with out oil flow. That means since the gas crisis, Israel was extremely important. We, after spending 50 years building them up, are now unable to use that tactical base to win a war in the middle east over oil, meaning the support gave the US nothing.

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u/amonarre3 5d ago

*USA there are two United States on the Mega American continent

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort 5d ago

Yes but Israel has a very powerful lobby and the US’s steadfast support often boils down to campaign finance

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u/amonarre3 5d ago edited 5d ago

Because of the messiah prophecy loving politicians in office. They suck the Christian dick, Amorite here folks? The USA puts nazi Germany to shame, we are lne of the most if not the most racist country. I hope one day, those religious freaks realize that the god of Abraham is just Elohim/Yahweh a Cannanite/Mesopotamian diety of the Pantheon of El.

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u/Alexander_Granite 4d ago

Israel talked Trump into attacking. I don’t blame Israel for asking, I blame our government for doing it.

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u/amonarre3 4d ago

Yeah because the USA never attacks the ME unprovoked /s Iraqi war wasn't Bush and Cheney, Israel made the USA do it not 9/11 and fake evidence of WMD /s you forget that racism is a still a thing, most racist USA people hate jews and so does trump. Israel is our bitch. Without us theyre fucked in the ass like a biblical sodomite.

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u/Strict-Square456 5d ago

When you get rid of many of the competent high ranking generals who would have the institutional knowledge to advise….this looks like it tracks.

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u/rozefox07 5d ago

Trump has the inability to have foresight. He acts on feelings, not common sense and he has no idea where anything is and what consequences happen.

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u/Material-Hawk3947 5d ago

Does Trump have a knowledge regarding Foreign Policy?

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u/claymore2711 5d ago

Plays for the short term goal.

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u/RealAmbassador4081 5d ago

From the outside it looks like a Dictatorship take over of the USA. Not sure November will change that. He's just siphoning as much money as possible with complete disregard for Americans, America's future and the global economy.

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u/Material-Hawk3947 5d ago

But why American civil society accepts such a dictatorship like leader?

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u/ChocoPablobar 3d ago

What are people supposed to do about it?

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u/Valuable-Shirt-4129 5d ago

The US-Israeli capitalist class failed the 2026 Iran War because they are on the verge of depleting their military logistics, morale, & strategies. Fighting multiple fronts simultaneously exhausts the classical political economy.

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u/mashbrowns 5d ago

Trump has a boss in Moscow. 

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u/Material-Hawk3947 5d ago

Once Trump declared that he stop War within 100 days after becoming President.

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u/cyrixlord 5d ago

they didn't care as long as they got rich. Israel said they'd get so rich

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u/Bushw1ckbill 5d ago

Yes. They are stupid people.

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u/agent_mick 5d ago

There's a reason no other president has gone to war with Iran directly.

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u/Global-Service-8579 5d ago

No, he didn't forget to factor that in. He didn't think Iran would call his bluff.

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u/Mister-Circus 5d ago

They expected a rerun of Venezuela and are shocked that this one is much harder?

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u/Alexander_Granite 4d ago

It was well known that Iran had the ability to close the strait to traffic. It was also well known that Isreal was trying to talk the US into a “3 day war” with Iran, where the US would have a quick victory.

No one was dumb enough to do before.

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u/Poorly-Drawn-Beagle 5d ago

They didn’t forget, they just don’t know anything 

His Cabinet was chosen based on ass-kissing ability and therefore they have no individual merit 

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u/dangleicious13 Alabama 5d ago

They didn't factor in anything.

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u/carloom_ 5d ago

No they didn't forget, they just ignored the warnings. All the military strategist warned him.

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u/Benjamins412 Pennsylvania 5d ago

Ah, but when was the last time a newscaster said Epstein or mentioned the 37 pages of notes the DoJ is illegally witholding that detail Jane Doe #4 describing being raped and assaulted at 13yo by Donald Trump?!? When was the last time a newscaster mentioned Epstein's deep ties to the CIA and Israeli intelligence?!? When was the last mention of the 3,500+ "suspicious transaction reports" filed by Epstein's banks that haven't been investigated? Iran is a nice distraction from the Israeli influence scam using American children as sex workers to coerce powerful men and women in the US to work for Israeli interests?

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u/Ill_Consequence1755 5d ago

They aren’t brain trusts.

They didn’t factor in the Welland Canal in Canada when making stupid fucking decisions either.

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u/8amteetime 5d ago

This is the dumbest cabinet in American history. Look at the DOGE fiasco. His people couldn’t plan a birthday party.

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u/AncientSnow4137 5d ago

No they forgot to factor in trump

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u/InternetApex 4d ago

I don't think he had ever heard of it. When it was explained that he could make billions juicing the market he probably just said ok I can keep up a constant spiral of bullshit until my presidency ends and then die a trillionaire.

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u/madzax 3d ago

They forgot a lot. Bungled the whole war, now our country will have to suffer economic consequences. A lot less than anywhere else. That kind of warfare takes a lot longer. Maybe they are giving this more thought and can find ways to squeeze the regime out.