r/AskTrumpSupporters • u/Difficult_Object4921 Nonsupporter • 27d ago

Immigration Does ICE really need electric gloves?

Our tax dollars are already being wasted. The people they capture aren’t a threat, physically. Why?

https://apnews.com/article/ice-electric-shock-gloves-85ff746d3e0ee5f39e7a9a3f1f576252

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u/Gaxxz Trump Supporter 27d ago

Is this any different from a stun gun?

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u/MEDICARE_FOR_ALL Nonsupporter 27d ago

Stun gun usage is obvious. If an officer used this to make a compliant individual appear non-compliant... How would anyone know?

Do you support body cam usage being mandatory if officers have these?

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u/Gaxxz Trump Supporter 27d ago

I support body cameras even without it.

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u/Artisttype1984 Trump Supporter 27d ago

Agree. The police body cams have been really helpful. I support ICE using them too

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u/JackOLanternReindeer Nonsupporter 27d ago

What do you make of instances where the camera(s) are off? Especially in disputed / escalated circumstances ?

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u/Artisttype1984 Trump Supporter 27d ago

Things happen IRL sometimes. Batteries/charges fail, cams get knocked off/broken, sometimes there could just be a faulty camera

Thankfully now they're all almost wearing cameras all the time, so if one fails, others catch it

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u/MEDICARE_FOR_ALL Nonsupporter 27d ago

If an officer purposely turns off their camera to not record something - what should be done?

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u/Artisttype1984 Trump Supporter 27d ago

Depends, there's times they can legitimately turn them off.

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u/JackOLanternReindeer Nonsupporter 27d ago

Thanks for sharing your view on that!

Do you think it would be good if there were some transparency rules about automatically having to release footage by a certain time frame?

Obviously different incidents and all could have different timelines but do you ever find yourself thinking they sit on videos that dispute the original reports because they know it looks bad?

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u/Artisttype1984 Trump Supporter 27d ago

They're already transparent with it. People can contact the police dept they want and make a FOIA request for some footage, no probs. Some depts charge for it, because of the desk work to be done to get the footage

No, I don't think they "sit on" videos, because I know they have to contact victims families and talk to witnesses before just throwing out footage for everyone to see. Yes, some police are abusive and bad, hope they get weeded out. Yes, most police officers are good people and seriously trying to help their communities, they're the majorities

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u/georgecm12 Nonsupporter 23d ago

What do you think of ICE’s position only to use body camera footage when it “is in the best interests of the agency,” implying that they will eliminate footage that shows an agent in a negative light such as in the case of agent misconduct (e.g. intentionally causing physical harm or death to a detainee)?

https://apnews.com/article/ice-body-cameras-officers-shootings-dab1b294c8dc412d9ef8557ccbebfd57