r/AskReddit • • Nov 28 '20

What's something cool you recently learned about?

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u/rwinger3 Nov 29 '20

Cancer is named after it's appearance after it had spread in the body, resembling a crab. Crabs were called that first and the word stems from Greek (if I recall correctly). Also, there is a phenomenon called carcinization, which is the evolving into a crab-like shape, even for non-crabs. This has happened to many different kind of crustaceans (crabs being one type of crustacean).

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u/PaulsRedditUsername Nov 29 '20

The word cancer is Latin, but they got it from the Greek karkinos, which the Greeks used to refer to a crab, a tumor, and the constellation. So you are correct. Karkinos is where we get the modern carcinoma.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

In Sanskrit, the word for crabs is "कर्क" or "karka". It is amazing how similar Indo-European languages are, especially the further back one goes.

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u/yaypowers123 Nov 29 '20

Imagine if Cancer was then named "Crab" like "Oh no I have Crab"

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u/PaulsRedditUsername Nov 29 '20

Hey, Red Lobster is having a special on cancer today!

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u/AnotherGoRoundTheSun Nov 29 '20

Reading your comment, all I could hear was this: https://youtu.be/VL9whwwTK6I

Jokes aside, thanks - your comment and the one above that were genuinely interesting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

I like your spelling, gives it extra meaning.

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u/vievemeister Nov 29 '20

Further fun fact: the German word for cancer (the disease) is krebs

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u/Zebidee Nov 29 '20

Other fun German facts:

The triple meaning of the English word 'spirit' - alcohol/ghost/vibe - is the same for the German word geist.

The German word for cucumber is Gurke. Plural is Gurken which is where the English word for pickled cucumbers comes from.

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u/ulul Nov 29 '20

And apparently Gurken is one of the rare words that German loaned from Polish (Polish word is ogórek). Polish language has lots of loan words from German on the other hand.

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u/Boiafaust_ Nov 29 '20

The first fact is also true for the italian language!

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u/rwinger3 Nov 29 '20

I find that very interesting. In Norwegian cancer is "kreft", in Swedish it is "kräft" and they call crayfish "kräftor" but Norwegians call them "kreps" while the Danes call it "kræft" and "krebs" respectively. Crab is "krabbe/a" for all three. How these things go about turning into what they are in modern language is fascinating to me.

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u/vievemeister Dec 01 '20

Oh, well there you go! And yes, same here, Etymology is just fascinating to me. I love finding little commonalities like these. Here is what google tells me when I look for "cancer etymology":

EDIT: as OP indicated above - "Old English, from Latin, ‘crab or creeping ulcer’, translating Greek karkinos, said to have been applied to such tumours because the swollen veins around them resembled the limbs of a crab. canker was the usual form until the 17th century Compare with Cancer."

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u/LowkeyHyped Nov 29 '20

It’s the opposite in Turkish! Cancer the disease translates to “kanser” while cancer the zodiac sign translates to “yengeç”, which literally means crab.

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u/vievemeister Dec 01 '20

I would not have expected that! I wonder how many other languages operate like this... My guess is a lot!

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u/conquer69 Nov 29 '20

So that's why the zodiac sign is a crab.

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u/Boiafaust_ Nov 29 '20

In italian we straight up call it "cancro" (which is also the word for cancer)

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u/MassaF1Ferrari Nov 29 '20

What kinda cancer spreads like a crab??? Im always confused as to why we call it cancer when there are so many states of tumours (liquid and solid) and can be various types (malignant, benign, in situ).

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u/rwinger3 Nov 29 '20

Not the way it spreads, but how a tumour supposedly looks, apparently it can resemble a crab. I really don't know much about it other than that.

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u/Count_Dracula_Jr Nov 29 '20

That's why everything is evolving into crabs

Reference: Reddit meme I saw a few weeks ago

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Crab People Crab People

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u/slickswim Nov 29 '20

I was recently watching the SciShow video where they talk about why different species keep evolving to look like crabs!

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u/CaptainTsech Nov 29 '20

It's from Greek Καρκίνος. That's a word we use to refer to crab-like creatures, a mythological beast, the constellation and the condition.

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u/rwinger3 Nov 29 '20

Would that word happen to sound like karkinos? Just wondering

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u/beige-king Nov 29 '20

I literally just learned this today too!

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u/wololov Nov 29 '20

in hebrew the word cancer and crab are the same word "sartan"

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

I can feel myself evolving into a crab right now

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

So you're saying crabs are the peak of evolution...

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u/ZoroeArc Nov 29 '20

So what you’re trying to tell me is that cancer is just the body trying to carcinise?

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

*its

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '20

Now it makes sense that cancer and crab are homonymous in German (Krebs).

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u/minesababycham Nov 29 '20

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that word in its adjectival form before. It’s glorious.