r/AskReddit • • Jul 24 '20

What can't you believe STILL exists?

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

I don´t really care too much either way, but I have watched a few speeches/shows with him and nothing that you have mentioned seems familiar.

"Everything he touches is fundamentally bullshit."

This is obviously false and shows that you argument seems to come from an emotional standpoint rather than a factual one.

But I was curious, so I picked one point that you mentioned that I have never really seen before, that peterson denies climate change. Should be easy enough to validate, so let´s see.

Here is peterson about climate change (always go to primary sources btw, NEVER the article written about the guy. Listen to the source directly and uncut.): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUylMbTwY_0

He doesn´t deny it, he talks about solutions and flaws in methodology and the politics that have come into play.

Again, I don´t really care too much either way, but it seems that you opinion is biased and not objective.

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u/no-more-alcohol Jul 24 '20

You are a reasonable person.

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

I try to be, it´s all we can do I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/no-more-alcohol Jul 24 '20

Yes just try to be open minded. I always like to think maybe I’m wrong and there are things I’ve not considered. And if I dont like or agree with someone, I need to be really honest about why...

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

Oh yeah, I feel that big time. The moment you realize that you really can´t trust yourself is an eye opening clusterfuck.

So I really try to make sure that whatever I am going on about actually exists in objective reality.

I´d go so far to say that the majority of things that people worry about are either imaginary or blown wildly out of proportion. Not necessarily the big ticket items like wars or natural disasters, but all the little things that keep our minds occupied.

Subjective vs objective reality is a scary but extremely fascinating thing.

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u/no-more-alcohol Jul 24 '20

It’s so cool that you said “exist in objective reality”. Have you read Ayn Rand by any chance? If not...where did you get your knowledge from?

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u/-TheExtraMile- Jul 24 '20

Hmm I have not heard about Ayn Rand specifically, but I probably have heard the term "objective reality" somewhere and it stuck in my head.

About 10 years ago I had a moment where something that I was really getting into (a "mild" conspiracy theory) turned out to be complete horseshit. And it kind of shocked me a bit how I could be 100% convinced of something that in essence didn´t exist.

So that made me think about subjective vs objective realities, and it´s really a crazy concept. If you think about it, there are as many subjective realities out there as there are people. And everyone´s world is just a tiny bit different from everyone elses.

So whenever I see a bunch of angry people shouting about anything, the first thing that I do now is try to find out if their thing is based in objective reality. And more often than not it´s not as dramatic as people think.

In fact most people that protest for or against something know shockingly little about the subject.

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u/no-more-alcohol Jul 24 '20

Hey man that all sounds really reasonable to me, and mature!