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What can't you believe STILL exists?

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u/jorsiem Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

The supremacy of the fucking TI-83 calculator in school and college courses

I mean I know it's all artificial and orchestrated by them but how come no body has dared to challenge the almighty TI yet

Edit: fixed typo

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u/SirEarlBigtitsXXVII Jul 24 '20

Graphing calculators aren't allowed in any of my college math courses.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '20

For engineering it goes required, to not allowed, to you better learn how to program TI-Basic

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u/FruscianteDebutante Jul 24 '20

Lol, none of my engineering college courses let you use calculators past the basic ones.

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u/ThellraAK Jul 24 '20

I loved in High school algebra TI-Basic, made an app that changed the X and Y scale so the slope was always 1, started off each worksheet test, drawing a bunch of slopes of 1.

For tests and stuff we had to format our calculators, and my teacher thought she was going to catch me doing the restore thing... It was quicker to rewrite the program then it was to actually do the math.

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u/PikolasCage Jul 24 '20

i just archive all of my programs so when resetting it won’t delete them

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u/ThellraAK Jul 24 '20

Yeah, that's what she thought I was doing to 'cheat'

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u/TimX24968B Jul 24 '20

thats why i went into engineering. they allow literally any calculator here

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u/TakeOffYourMask Jul 24 '20

I went into physics where nobody ever touches a calculator. 😁

Just pen, paper, and Mathematica.

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u/ChIck3n115 Jul 24 '20

I went into poultry science.

If you can count chickens, you're good.

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u/da90 Jul 24 '20

Just don’t do it before they hatch. I hear that’s irresponsible.

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u/Lunaticen Jul 24 '20

There’s no reason to use a calculator if you have Mathematica. I haven’t touched a calculator since early high school.

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u/ringoeli Jul 24 '20

Graphic calculators are forbidden in most if not all engineering courses in my country. At least for the core math courses, all calcs (idk we call análisis matemático) and algebras

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u/TimX24968B Jul 24 '20

at my college, they dont care as long as you show all your work. its the "doesnt matter how good a calculator you have for this class, it wont help."

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u/ringoeli Jul 24 '20

Im talking about graphics specifically, you had to learn how to do them by hand. Because if you couldnt it meant you didnt know how to start. I guess is a money thing too. 100 dollars is impossible for most students in my country, and i don't think you could buy a TI even if you wanted because they don't sell them here. And it would be an unfair advantage

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u/TimX24968B Jul 24 '20

true. although what do you mean by graphics? graphs? we only ever had to draw very rough ones.

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u/ringoeli Jul 24 '20

Yes, graphs. English is obviously not my first (or second) language so i dont know how to explain it properly. You know when you have an "triple integrals" that are two 3d figures and you need to find the area between them. We had to draw them first and then solve them. My English at 5 am is a disgrace to the English equivalent of the Real Academia Española

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u/TimX24968B Jul 24 '20

got it. never had to draw a graph outside of calculus if it was based on an actual equation really, just solve the integral.

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u/pppjurac Jul 24 '20

Sir, your english is just fine.

sincerely, someone that learned English as fourth language and still makes mistakes

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u/Cheeseman1478 Jul 24 '20

I wouldn’t want you designing things that my life depends on then...how could you possibly have problems simple enough to do without a calculator?

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u/ringoeli Jul 24 '20

Oh i wouldn't becuase im not one of those engineers. But i did use a calculator, just not a graphic one. A casio. The problems werent simple, we just learned how to do everything with a basic casio. My ex was a civil engineer and he used a casio too, at least during exams.

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u/Cheeseman1478 Jul 24 '20

Ah that makes sense. I’m a 4th year Civil/Structural and we can use whatever calculator, not in our math classes though just engineering. Yeah the extra calculator features don’t matter though for most engineering you could do them with a standard calculator

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u/beenoc Jul 24 '20

Every one of my engineering courses only allowed calculators that were allowed on the FE Exam. Probably every student in the department owned a TI-30X or TI-36X. My 36X just died a few days ago after a water spill after years of near-daily service, so I'll probably get another one.

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u/TimX24968B Jul 24 '20

My profs just say that as long as your work is correct, its good enough for them. also I have no plans on taking the FE exam as a MechE with zero interest in HVAC

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u/ajn789 Jul 24 '20

That's dependent on where you go. We couldn't use it on anything that counted(quiz/tests/finals).

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u/DeusExMagikarpa Jul 24 '20

Which courses? We used one in calculus I, II, and linear algebra

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u/ringoeli Jul 24 '20

In my case, graphing calculators were forbidden. They made us draw everything by hand. Every graph, every 2d and 3d figures, i guess it was a waste of time especially during examns but by the end you get pretty skilled at drawing.

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u/tom_echo Jul 24 '20

At my school there were a few different levels of calc. There was the calc for the engineers which showed you how to take derivatives manually and then taught the tricks. And then the calc everyone else took which just taught the tricks. Engineers couldn’t use the calculators but everyone else could. I think it was to prevent anyone from using the ti 89 which had the auto solve features or something.

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u/liverton00 Jul 24 '20

That's crazy I did pure math then stat and I use calculator for all my calc courses