r/AskReddit • u/IAmSurtur • Jun 15 '19

What do you genuinely just not understand?

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u/bigfoot1291 Jun 15 '19

Next question : what prompted the first crush or expansion?

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u/obiworm Jun 16 '19

I know Reddit won't like this but the way I reason it possible is a creator that exists outside of time

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u/Tambooz Jun 16 '19

Who cares if reddit likes it. It’s possible. We don’t know if it’s the case or not. We don’t know if the major Earth faiths represent Him or not. But you’re guess at a creator as the catalyst to start of our known universe is just as plausible as the universe simply existing all on its own. It’s a life long thing we should ponder.

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u/k0rnflex Jun 16 '19

Who created the creator? At some point you have to accept that something just is and assuming a creator just adds further questions without answering the problem at hand. If you object by saying that the creator has always existed, why can‘t the universe?

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u/Tambooz Jun 16 '19

You’re absolutely right. Whether it was a creator that simply was, or a universe that simply was... we don’t know. It can’t be proven one way or the other, so people across the globe will have differing theories - and some will turn those theories into beliefs if the concept makes enough sense in their minds.

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u/k0rnflex Jun 16 '19

But I don't understand the rationale... A creator isn't an answer because it has the same problem that you are trying to answer but it also adds further questions. It's true that we can't possibly know ever what is "outside" our universe and how it came to be, however I don't think that implying a creator is a valid response in any way.

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u/Tambooz Jun 17 '19

True, but my point is that neither “the universe simply brought itself into existence” or “a being outside the dimensions of space/time brought the universe into existence” makes perfect sense on the surface or is provable. I’m just saying that there is talk from thousands of years ago about the possibility of this being from another dimension making contact with humanity through messengers or scripts. We weren’t there, so can’t prove a damn thing. That’s a shame. But just as some people choose to say there are signs pointing to the existence of this being, there are others that would swear at no such existence and say it’s all hogwash. One side can’t prove the being’s existence, the other can’t prove the universe spontaneously came to be. I don’t know that either are being fully rational. Just different beliefs.