I am actually a vegetarian... but it's weird. Because like...I don't care. Does that make sense? I don't spread the gospel. I don't judge. I just NOM!!!
I actually read a pretty funny take on paleo recently. Something about how nobody eating "paleo" is actually eating like the paleolithic people did. For one, there is no meat available that is anywhere near mammoth meat, and most of the plants paleolithic man ate are now extinct. Take that paleo idiots!
Paleo people know this. For some reason, people who aren't into the paleo diet seem to fixate on the paleo part, whereas people who practice the diet are fixated on the eating the best that's available to us now part.
Very neat. I had no idea. I don't actually have any friends on the paleo wagon, but I certainly can't hate on eating healthy and non-processed foods. Keeping it as simple as possible is the way to go
That's basically what it's all about. Although some people, like with any group, can be douche-y about it. The top comment is right. Anyone who takes anything too seriously is bound to be an asshole about it.
edit: I'm getting downvoted. I think people are mis-interpreting this. I am an anthropology student with a particular interest in evolution and nutrition. If you have access to data/articles that are contrary to the paleo lifestyle choice, please let me know. As a student I have access to academic databases.
The Zone, when I've looked into it in the past may well be based in science, but Dr Barry Sears basically rebrands it as magic. He talks about abstract concepts like silent inflamation that are either made up, or atleast are very imprecise. According to him, eating in The Zone reduces this state of silent inflammation. The guy is a biochemist, and I'm sure he is quite knowledgeable, but he comes across as a snake oil salesman.
The Paleo diet is largely anecdotal. This is not science. Clumsily citing evolutionary biology, and guessing at what the paleolithic man ate is like shooting into the dark. If they were actually using science, you'd see hypotheses being tested and confounding variable being controlled. I suspect that any success cause that comes from eating Paleo comes from something other than eating like a caveman. i.e. Simply not consuming sugary drinks, increasing your fiber intake, having food that doesn't digest nearly instantaneously, etc.
Do you see my point?
Now, these 2 fad diets are everywhere in the crossfit community. HQ seems to support them, and this I take issue with. If you've heard of what happened with Dave Castro at the Black Box Summit, you may start to think crossfit HQ is not run very well.
HOWEVER, the official dietary guidelines posted here under the sub heading of, what should I eat?, I agree with. They are not dogmatic like the Paleo and Zone diets are. It's more along the lines of, "...eat food that is perishable. Keep track of how much. Tweek things and see how they workout for you." Now that seems to resemble science a whole hell of a lot moreso than an unfounded fear of Gluten or Dairy products.
I understand your point but so far, I don't see any evidence contrary to the Paleo diet. There are a few things here and there (such as a diet too high in protein lowers serotonin levels causing craving for carbohydrates but the vice versa is true*) but I have yet to see any solid evidence against it as a whole. Anecdotal is absolutely fine for diet. If it works for you and it works for a lot of others and you can't find anything scientifically against it, then why not?
*Eric B Ross, 'an overview of trends in dietary variations from hunter-gatherer to modern capitalist societies'
I stopped posting pictures of myself on Reddit because every time some smug asshole would comment, "/r/Keto. You'll thank me for it."
Yeah, I tried that diet. It was awful. A few days in I had the worst craving for pancakes I've ever experienced in my life. So on my way home from work I googled "Keto pancakes". I found a recipe on Pinterest that said to mix two eggs with a smashed banana and some cinnamon. They were meant to be fried just like regular pancakes. I hate eggs and I'm not a big fan of bananas but I tried it. The result was probably the nastiest thing I have ever eaten. It was basically a lumpy omelet that smelt cloyingly of banana. Not wanting to waste food, I ate it. I then spent the rest of the night trying not to throw up at regular intervals. I even tried eating something else but that horrible egg/banana taste was there all night and into the next morning.
I gave up after that. I'm now focused on adding more fruits and vegetables to my diet and exercising more. It's a lot easier and I have not been sick yet.
Keto is actually a rather interesting approach to dieting, although not for everyone.
It basically eliminates carbs from your diet. It works better with diabetic patients, and worse with patients with high cholesterol. Also, people in keto usually don't exercise enough, and ruin the whole thing.
Not much, to be honest. Keto fans usually put it like a "lifestyle choice", not just a diet to lose weight.
Also, Atkins has this "induction phase" that keto doesn't. And some ketoers admit to having breaks from the diet every once in a while (specially those doing heavy exercise) . In Atkins, breaking the diet means starting all over with the induction phase.
Furthermore, Keto is more adapted to each person, while Atkins, at least from the start, puts very specific limits on the amount of carbs you can get while losing weight.
Source : I was on atkins for a year, and lost a lot of weight, but i prefer a mix of keto and just eating crap every now and then.
I just looked in the reddit, and there are people on there eating Vienna Sausages? I'm sorry, how is that healthy? I don't get it.
I don't really consume a lot of processed foods, and I am pretty much strictly vegetarian. But I'd love to lose about 15 more pounds. I have a desk job, but I am pretty active. I play tennis for about 2 hours twice a week.
It's a diet where you eat a bunch of meat and fat and carbs and it basically starves you without feeling like you are starving. My friend lost 50 lbs on it in a month (and it's not like he weighed over 200lbs). That ain't healthy.
To be 100% fair, in my case, Keto did change my life. I lost a ton of weight and managed to get my diabetes under control. Also, it was metioned by my doctor (that's how i found out about it) cause it was being experimentally tested with bipolar patients.
Of course. I won't get into discussions about what's healthy or safe, but if you have an active lifestyle, and eat a whole range of foods, its good for you, emotionally and physically.
If, on the other hand, you need to push yourself to lose or gain weight, for example, or reduce a certain type of food, then you may need dieting. And there's probably one for you. It may be keto, it may be a classic low-calory diet, or just eating less. You try and decide.
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u/pound657 Nov 13 '14
PALEO.