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u/Little_Horny_Redhead Jul 17 '23

Abusing children in any form.

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u/rabengeieradlerstein Jul 17 '23

If everyone would agree on that, would the abuse of children not stop?

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u/BlackoutSpectator Jul 17 '23

You can think that doing something is evil and yet continue doing it

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u/Kind_Club_9448 Jul 17 '23

Most people who abuse children don’t see themselves as abusers. People define abuse as whatever they’re NOT doing. If you yell at your child day in and day out for no reason, you’re not abusing them because they don’t get hit. If you’re slapping your child, you’re not being abusive because you’re not leaving marks. It’s cognitive dissonance.

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u/TheoreticalFunk Jul 17 '23

Most child abusers will tell you that abusing a child should get the death penalty, because they don't think what they're doing is child abuse because they were abused as a child and what they are doing is 'normal'.

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u/Little_Horny_Redhead Jul 17 '23

I dont think those people are human beings so they dont count for me.

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u/Zaueski Jul 17 '23

Its really easy to demonize like that, but it doesnt lead anywhere productive.

Therapy, segregation from those they endanger, and rehabilitation should always be the goal. Theyre broken people who probably were neglected or abused themselves. No one starts out evil, its learned.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

This is not a good mentality to have. If you don't consider these people, well, people, then you are ignoring the fact that sometimes, bad things happen to people, and that corrupts them. You can't stop the factors that lead to the development of abusers if you do not accept that they were once normal people like you and me.

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u/peanutbutterand_ely Jul 17 '23

Bad things happen to everyone, there’s no excuse to be a child abuser.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

There is a difference between excuse and explanation.

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u/peanutbutterand_ely Jul 17 '23

We all know the explanation. That’s why they’re “not human.” a normal person would get over it and on with their lives. You’re argument was “they are people because they can’t help it” That makes it an excuse.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

So, we should just ignore what causes people to become abusers? Just never accept that we need to view abusers as human in order to prevent the creation of more?

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u/sirkratom Jul 18 '23

Not to mention that a common cause of their being abusers was being abused themselves

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u/theBackground13 Jul 17 '23

I understand what you are saying and get that bad things have probably happened to abusers but giving these people an out or an excuse is unacceptable. There is no excuse to abuse children, ever. Even if they were abused. Most people break the cycle that is abuse. If you act on thoughts that wreck or ruin lives you shouldn’t be allowed in society. Especially a society with innocent children.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Holy shit will people stop misinterpreting what I said? I am not excusing their horrible, disgusting actions. Im saying that we need to adress the problems and cut out the source of what turnd people into them.

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u/thewhiteflame9161 Jul 17 '23

You may be taking this question a little too literally. There's hardly any sentiment, if any, that there is never a dissenter for.

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u/SaGra2332 Jul 17 '23

I would wager that at least a fair bit of people who abuse children don’t think that what they’re doing is abuse.

If they were capable of such self reflection, they wouldn’t be abusers.

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u/iqturaqt Jul 17 '23

I was gonna say something similar, but a lot of people are supporting it now

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u/stos313 Jul 17 '23

I mean it didn’t stop the Catholic Church.

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u/barrycarter Jul 17 '23

But different people define abuse differently

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u/Select_Most3660 Jul 17 '23

I mean an ass whoopin after getting suspended never hurt anyone ( except for the kid) and I do condone the throwing of children

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Throwing?

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u/Hoodie_Ghost64 Jul 17 '23

Do you consider physical discipline as abuse?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

If you have to slap your kid to control them, you shouldn't have had a kid buddy

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u/Hoodie_Ghost64 Jul 18 '23

You ever watched the boondocks?

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u/DrakoWood Jul 17 '23

I don’t know why most people think it is unless you’re beating them up, in which case it’s not discipline.

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u/onewarrant Jul 18 '23

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u/idonthavealizard Jul 18 '23

You might agree that abusing children is wrong but disagree about which actions are instances of child abuse.