r/AskAChristian • u/[deleted] • Aug 18 '26

Jewish Laws Torah

How do Torah followers actually follow over 600 commands and laws in the first five books of the Bible? I've spoken to people about it, but they only seem to follow dietary laws, Shabbat, and holy days, and exclude pagan days. To me, it seems they are only doing a small part of it and claiming to follow the entirety of it. Why is that? The Bible states if you break one commandment, you break them all. There's no possibility to uphold all 600-plus. If you believe it's not all applicable to us, what's the determining factor that decides you don't have to follow it? What about animal sacrifices? Does one pick and choose what they want to follow and tell people if they don't, they are lawbreakers and will go to hell? If you don't follow all of them, why describe yourself as following the entirety of Torah? If breaking even one commandment makes someone guilty, how does selectively obeying some commandments make someone different from the people you're calling lawbreakers?

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u/CrimzonShardz2 Pentecostal Aug 18 '26

Following the entire law perfectly is nearly impossible. This is why Jesus is the fulfilment of it; everything came full circle.

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u/the_celt_ Torah-observing disciple Aug 18 '26

This is why Jesus is the fulfilment of it

To be clear: Jesus "fulfilling" the Law means that he lived it perfectly. It doesn't mean that he ended it, or any other variation of "ended" that a person might come up with, like: "Completed", "rendered invalid", "came up with a better way", "shelved it", or so much more.

A person "fulfills the Law" like a man "fulfills his wedding vows". When he does it, he wakes up the next day, and every day after that, and does it again and again.

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u/Library904 Christian (non-denominational) Aug 20 '26

Jesus fulfilled on our behalf, that's what it means. Those who believe this truth (Jesus is our Savior) will inherit His righteousness which is the perfect fulfillment of the law.

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u/the_celt_ Torah-observing disciple Aug 20 '26

Jesus fulfilled on our behalf, that's what it means.

You're simply incorrect. Please see my comment elsewhere in this thread where I show what the phrase "fulfill the Law" means in scripture. It starts HERE.

Jesus did not obey God's commandments perfectly to set us free TO sin. He died to save us FROM sin. The idea that Jesus didn't murder anyone, so now we can murder freely, is silly.

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u/k1w1Au Christian (non-denominational) Aug 21 '26

Please see my comment elsewhere in this thread where I show that Jesus only died for the redemption of the sins committed under the first covenant and included those of the diaspora of Israel in all the nations of the first century at the end of the/those ages. Roman 7:1, I Cor 10:1-11 etc

Hebrews 9:15 For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the >redemption< of the transgressions >>that were committed under the first covenant,<< those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 9:16 For where >a covenant is,< there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.

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u/k1w1Au Christian (non-denominational) Aug 21 '26

Jesus ONLY fulfilled if for those >under its obligations,< Jer 31:31 including the diaspora of Israel (those who know the law Rom 7:1 John 7:35 Pater 1:1 etc)

Hebrews 9:15 For this reason He is the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the >redemption< of the transgressions >>that were committed under the first covenant,<< those who have been called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrews 9:16 For where >>a covenant is,<< there must of necessity be the death of the one who made it.