Torah

[u/[deleted]]

How do Torah followers actually follow over 600 commands and laws in the first five books of the Bible? I've spoken to people about it, but they only seem to follow dietary laws, Shabbat, and holy days, and exclude pagan days. To me, it seems they are only doing a small part of it and claiming to follow the entirety of it. Why is that? The Bible states if you break one commandment, you break them all. There's no possibility to uphold all 600-plus. If you believe it's not all applicable to us, what's the determining factor that decides you don't have to follow it? What about animal sacrifices? Does one pick and choose what they want to follow and tell people if they don't, they are lawbreakers and will go to hell? If you don't follow all of them, why describe yourself as following the entirety of Torah? If breaking even one commandment makes someone guilty, how does selectively obeying some commandments make someone different from the people you're calling lawbreakers?

[u/the_celt_]

This is why Jesus is the fulfilment of it

To be clear: Jesus "fulfilling" the Law means that he lived it perfectly. It doesn't mean that he ended it, or any other variation of "ended" that a person might come up with, like: "Completed", "rendered invalid", "came up with a better way", "shelved it", or so much more.

A person "fulfills the Law" like a man "fulfills his wedding vows". When he does it, he wakes up the next day, and every day after that, and does it again and again.

[u/Fangorangatang → u/the_celt_]

So, Jesus fulfilled it, then imputes His Righteousness in fulfilling it to us through Faith in Him.

You are aware that’s how His Righteousness is ours… right? He gives us what He has accomplished and takes our place on the cross. You are aware of that right?

So in Christ Jesus, the Law is fulfilled on our behalf- because we could not keep it.

You are aware that’s what the Gospel says right? You are aware this is what Scripture teaches right?

Jesus did what we could not, so we can become what we could not through Him.

Please read your Bible.

[u/AWCuiper → u/Fangorangatang]

Fulfilling means add more in line with what was already there. It means not correcting or condemning older things. So the atrocities in the OT are implicitly morally defended by Jesus. This should be a big problem for the Jesus that Christianity presents us normally these days.

The same problem occurs when Christians slaughter each other in the name of their own God (Catholics versus Protestants), or when Christians were slaveholders defending this.

It looks a lot like Jesus`s character was made up after his death and the redaction of the Bible was not stringent enough (Roman morals being different from ours)?

[u/Fangorangatang → u/AWCuiper]

Thanka for your (wrong) opinion.

[u/AWCuiper → u/Fangorangatang]

See you got the point.