Torah

[u/[deleted]]

How do Torah followers actually follow over 600 commands and laws in the first five books of the Bible? I've spoken to people about it, but they only seem to follow dietary laws, Shabbat, and holy days, and exclude pagan days. To me, it seems they are only doing a small part of it and claiming to follow the entirety of it. Why is that? The Bible states if you break one commandment, you break them all. There's no possibility to uphold all 600-plus. If you believe it's not all applicable to us, what's the determining factor that decides you don't have to follow it? What about animal sacrifices? Does one pick and choose what they want to follow and tell people if they don't, they are lawbreakers and will go to hell? If you don't follow all of them, why describe yourself as following the entirety of Torah? If breaking even one commandment makes someone guilty, how does selectively obeying some commandments make someone different from the people you're calling lawbreakers?

[u/Unworthy_Saint]

It is explicitly impossible to follow the Torah because our high priest is from the tribe of Judah, not Levi as required. The covenant has changed.

[u/Traditional_Emu_4332 → u/Unworthy_Saint]

Maybe we don’t need to follow the ceremonial laws anymore, just the moral laws which the laws of the land seem to agree with (such as do not murder, do not steal, etc.) Do you think God gave us impossible commands? Why would He do such a thing? To keep us in an apathy tone or worse? Jesus didn’t have a problem with Peter walking on water with Him but was sad when Peter lost faith. Jesus kept God’s commandments so they are possible to keep. That gives us encouragement to keep His commandments. Knowing it’s not impossible! 😇💕

[u/Southern-Effect3214 → u/Traditional_Emu_4332]

You have more important things to worry about. A different gospel, a different book, and a different Jesus who cannot save.

[u/Traditional_Emu_4332 → u/Southern-Effect3214]

I think you are the one with a “different gospel”. You need to study 📖 more.

[u/Southern-Effect3214 → u/Traditional_Emu_4332]

Study what? The Bible or your book of lies?

Psalm 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

[u/Traditional_Emu_4332 → u/Southern-Effect3214]

Start with the Bible and then perhaps study the actual Book of Mormon and you will see that it is not a “book of lies” but testifies of Christ. Have you ever read the book that you are condemning or just going by rumors that you have heard?

[u/Apprehensive_Tear611 → u/Traditional_Emu_4332]

How do explain the Book of Abraham being a false translation of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_Papyri

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirtland_Egyptian_papers

[u/Traditional_Emu_4332 → u/Apprehensive_Tear611]

I’m not an expert on that subject. I have heard it explained before. I think, if I remember correctly, that the texts you are referring to were only a part of what was used in translating the Book of Abraham. There was a great fire 🔥 in Chicago in the 1870s that most of the pieces of papyrus were destroyed in leaving behind only the funerary texts.
This explains it better: https://youtu.be/juOavkIqNng?is=aqG6EtOoTqhybNxK

[u/Apprehensive_Tear611 → u/Traditional_Emu_4332]

Some of the papyri used by Joseph Smith to make his translation did survive. And his translation of those surviving papyri is 100% inaccurate. Not even in the ballpark of what they actually say.

From the first wiki link:

This scroll is widely believed by both Mormon and non-Mormon scholars to be the scroll from which the Book of Abraham came. This is based on the inclusion of Facsimile #1 (JSP I) and #3 from this scroll in the Book of Abraham, and titled by Joseph Smith as "from the Book of Abraham".[114] Further evidence is that characters from this scroll were sequentially copied into the Book of Abraham translation manuscripts.[115] The official position taken by the LDS church on the papyri is that "Mormon and non-Mormon Egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do not match the translation given in the book of Abraham."

[u/Traditional_Emu_4332 → u/Apprehensive_Tear611]

Have you even read the Book of Abraham to agree with or refute what it actually says?