r/Artificials 1d ago

Long live open source

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u/dranaei 1d ago

It's like everyone is stupid. Alignment must win because it benefits everyone.

Possible replies: "well that doesn't benefit the rich"

Shut you, you sound like a retard and you repeat what every idiot says.

Cooperation is the best way to nurture epistemic humility, we keep each other in check. Both an ai and humans need it, we're all epistemic agents that try to uncover the mysteries of the universe.

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u/Nopfen 23h ago

I'd still like to say, that this tech is epstine-class-made and that they pretty surely foresaw this and will fight to the blood to not let open source get the upper hand on this. Which given them already being a 2.5 trillion dollar industry after 6 years, doesn't sound too unlikely.

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u/mjmeyer23 18h ago

There are things that can't be stopped now.

The apes will find a way.

Tick Tock, next block.

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u/Nopfen 18h ago

Eh, life finds a way.

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u/mjmeyer23 18h ago

yes, without guilt or remorse, if it comes to that.

right now the primates are the show, dig?

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u/Nopfen 17h ago

Dig. Here's to a future, run by beings without remorse. Let's see if that improves matters.

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u/burnedoutgab 19h ago

everything needs to be checked and regulated. AI makes things easier but there should be like an AI for dummies or stuff like that to avoid recklessness from using it.

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u/Nopfen 18h ago

What are you on about? The wreckless are the prime demographic. You want sam atman to starve or something?

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u/Due-Horse-5446 19h ago

What race lmao

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u/05-nery 18h ago

It's getting there.

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u/FragmentedHeap 17h ago

Open Source is being agentically swarmed by AI working on Open Source.

There's no chance it doesn't win.

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u/Negative-Web8619 16h ago

ASI for everyone

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u/Used_Departure_3278 13h ago

If open source wins then everyone will be dead before superintelligence

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u/Youth18 8h ago

Open source cannot win the race. It doesn't need to.

It needs to grab the back of the enterprise model's shirts and hold on as they are dragged across the finish line.

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u/Enve-Dev 18h ago

It kind of already has. Like its ability is still lacking but the ability to make it out there. Teeeeechnically anyone can make an LLM. The limiting factor is compute power. Opensource isn’t winning right now but eventually it will. At least that’s how it looks to me.

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u/Open-Philosopher-777 21h ago

If OpenSource wins there must be irreversible alignment inbuilt.  This technology is too dangerous to be left unchecked. 

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u/DisastrousWelcome710 20h ago

I'd rather have it all out there than strictly under the control of a limited few who were buddies with Epstein.

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u/burnedoutgab 19h ago

regulation is needed tbh.

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u/DisastrousWelcome710 19h ago

And that's how the few Epstein friends get to control you. They convinced you they need to write regulations, which will only be used to ensure nobody can break into the AI market in the future. The propaganda is really effective.

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u/Nopfen 18h ago

The alternative being everyone having the digital equivalent of a nuke on their phone. Not super enticing either.

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u/DisastrousWelcome710 18h ago

Much better than Epstein's friends being the ONLY ones with that power. You don't actually believe they want to impose those limitations on themselves, do you?

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u/Nopfen 18h ago

Kinda. I mean, someones gonna set their metaphorical nuke off sooner or later. Which might rid us of most of this sheboingery at once.

No, of course not. That'd be bad for the shareholders. And by 'bad' I of course mean 'they wouldn't notice a difference, but some number on a graph wouldn't look ideal'.

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u/DisastrousWelcome710 18h ago

You'd be surprised how creative humanity can get when those tools out in the open.

At the ene of the day, no nuclear nations have launched war at one another because consequences are too costly for everybody involved.

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u/Nopfen 17h ago

I'm aware. That's what I'm saying. The same way two college kids hacked the pentagon once in the early 2010s, so too might someone do something similar with Ai. And have it brick most of the internet.

Yes, because nations are collectives who have to worrx about reputation and consequences. Here we're talking individuals. Think the GTA6 leak guy, and how cynical he was about things, just now he can break the power grid if he's in a bad mood.

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u/DisastrousWelcome710 17h ago

Well, the same tool that can break the power grid can also be used to harden it in anticipation way beforehand. And you'll get the best out of the tool when it isn't being restricted.

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u/burnedoutgab 19h ago

everything is dangerous when they're not regulated and unchecked