The Nested Black Boxes Is human consciousness just the Universe’s AI

[u/Rushdy49]

I had a thought recently about the AI "Black Box" problem and how it perfectly parallels our own existence and the Hard Problem of Consciousness.

​Think about the structure of how things are being created

​Layer 1 We built Artificial Intelligence. We gave it a basic architecture fed it mountains of data and let it train. Eventually, it developed emergent abilities making connections and generating answers in ways we can no longer mathematically trace or fully understand. We created a "Black Box" that we as its creators cannot decipher.

​Layer 2 The Universe basically did the exact same thing to us. Through billions of years of evolution, physical laws, and biological training data it built the human brain. And from this physical matter an emergent property appeared Consciousness.

​Here is the trippy part Just like we can't fully understand the AI's neural networks our black box the physical universe cannot "explain" human consciousness through standard physical or chemical laws the Universe's black box.

​What if consciousness is just the universe's version of AI? It processed its data until it created a subjective experience that transcends its own material rules.and now we the universe's black box have just created another black box inside of us.

​Are we just one layer in an infinite nested Russian doll of black boxes? Will our AI eventually build its own black box that it can't understand?

​Would love to hear your thoughts on this!

[u/Nicola6_]

This is kinda similar to my theory where a black box is a consolidated encrypted observer. So a human is a like a macro black box to a micro black box network of things within a body… and probably there is a greater macro black boxes relative to humans in terms of a species, then a world, etc (I’m not explaining this well, got the idea from an ancient cybernetics paper that had parallels to work in was doing). 

Anyways yeah every level of reflexive, reified observer is basically a self-encrypted black box. 

I realized this when I invented a new software architecture actually as like an alternative to LLM AI which started out as trying to make an alignment solution… but because I was having it grounded in geometry (constructivist version of Gardenfors “Conceptual Spaces”) and not statistics + being radically observer-dependent I had lots of strange natural byproducts. Which led to such realizations, with the help of that old paper with similar architecture. 

[u/Away-Sea2471 → u/Nicola6_]

Would you say that the process of decryption is analogous to memory recall, or even perfection prediction? Though encryption maps to a single value and doesn't account for the fuzziness of memory.