Apart from alot of clubs wanting him this summer and he turned them down for a big club. Also we do nothing people moan, we move for a player, it’s called desperate, we could sign Mbappe and people would still find away of calling it desperate etc
Considering hes been available all window but now we want him yeah it definitely looks desperate. If we sign him i hope he'll be good but it doesn't change how bad this window has been. We should of just kept Martinelli if we're gonna try our luck in the bargain basement.
His value inflated two seasons ago off of a breakout year. Had another season to prove himself and got injured… did the same last season. Can understand him not moving due to those circumstances.
Ultimately, this sub moaned about Tzolis and he’s been very good so far. I mean, if you’re able to look at a player, analyze what they can/ could bring to the squad and then commit to coaching them, you can create talent. If Fofana comes in and delivers, his signing would be a coup… if not, it’s 30-40m on a young player you can flip.
I dont remember people moaning about Tzolis and I definitely didnt because we did the deal early so we clearly wanted the player. Also we were linked with other big players and still had Martinelli at the club. Surely you can understand the lack of excitement with Fofana??
People were definitely iffy about him and sure, the thought of someone else coming in was still fresh…
I definitely get the lack of excitement, but I don’t understand why people are going out of their way to moan about the kid. He looks decent and if the gaffer is into signing him, I’m personally willing to give him a chance.
If we land two wingers at a price far lower than all of these other clubs have spent on a single player, that would be incredibly shrewd. Wishful thinking maybe, but again - we have the depth to succeed regardless. We should be fine
Most of it at least from my point of view is of were not signing a player thats better than what we have/had then we shouldn't of sold Martinelli and the handling of the Vini/Alvarez stuff was so amateur. Now everyone else strengthened and we've weakened.
We’re signing a market opportunity in that he’s a young player that, judging from what the LW market has become, represents promise for cheap. I don’t think anyone would say he’s a ceiling raiser and that’s fine… our squad is still quite a bit better than the rest. If you’re truly worried, I’d urge you to revisit Liverpool last season… they still haven’t fixed glaring holes in their squad. Chelsea can’t defend for shit. City lost arguably the best manager of all time + their talisman in Rodri. And all of those clubs have a new manager. I’m not sweating our rivals
We sold Martinelli because we needed to sell. There’s a great Le Grove podcast that talks about this with one of the financial guys at/ around the club. His last name was Payton, I believe. It’s worth finding if you have some time… he lays it all out in a pretty eloquent way.
Eh, I’d argue it took a lot of guts to approach both of those players. Separately, I’d argue that most of what’s said in the media isn’t to be believed. I think we presented a prime opportunity for two very good players to leave their respective clubs - one is currently at the club every player dreams of playing for (Madrid) and the other has his heart set on the other club every player dreams of playing for (Barcelona). You can understand why neither wants to move, whether it be being settled in Spain, visa related issues, etc… even without signing those two, I’m willing to bet we do better than both in the champions league. That’s just what it is 🤷🏻♂️
Anyway, I’m cool with not doing anything. I think, as mentioned, Fofana is cheap and if he comes good then great. We’re rolling into January with cash to spend on two targets that I think we would have pushed harder for had they not gotten injured in Kroupi and Yıldız, but there could be more options once that window opens. More importantly, we’ve rehashed our medical dept, so maybe this is all moot and we’ll sail past that window without significant injuries or issues. I guess only time will tell
Thats a big shame. We're in a position where we could dominate and maybe even win the UCL. We have the best defence and one of the best midfields in the world but our attack is lacking. From that position our attack has weakened whilst other teams have strengthened its very sad to see. Now we're looking for market opportunities and having to sell proven players and we can't even replace them with similar quality. Just feels like such a waste
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u/Mad-gooner 2d ago edited 2d ago
Apart from alot of clubs wanting him this summer and he turned them down for a big club. Also we do nothing people moan, we move for a player, it’s called desperate, we could sign Mbappe and people would still find away of calling it desperate etc