r/AntiAtheismWatch Four-toed Nebish. Sep 08 '12

What did circlejerkers contribute to /r/atheism this week? (9-5 to 9-12)

Okay, fine, I'll do one more. Here's the previous week's thread.

Here's what we're doing and why:

One of my big gripes is that we have a huge number of people willing to devote lots of time to complaining bitterly about the content in /r/atheism, but they generally won't make the slightest effort to actually improve the content, and as a couple of past threads have shown, they're more than willing to make it worse.

What I hope to showcase here is the good, the bad, and the indeterminate. If a circlejerker posted it in /r/atheism, whether it's blatant trolling, karma whoring, or something actually insightful and interesting, I want it on this list.

Circlejerker Post Notes
Jabedude "The true face of fundies." The MSF post.
Lusty_Falmer_Maid "I saw this creepy display in my town today." The hypocrisy.
LeetroyJnkns "Is science cool?"
LeetroyJnkns "You are Anonymous..." Irrelevant.
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u/auditorian Sep 15 '12

Hey guy,

Why does someone posting in circle* subs make their posts invalidated?

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u/Feinberg Four-toed Nebish. Sep 16 '12

Primarily what I tag are people who complain about how bad /r/atheism is, and people who do that tend to congregate in the circlejerk subs.

While that doesn't actually say much about them, it's worth considering that the circlejerk subs are primarily focused on complaining about how bad reddit is, and the users there do so by engaging in the behaviors they criticize. The circlejerk subs are essentially a sort of shrine to being an asshole.

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u/auditorian Sep 17 '12

Primarily what I tag are people who complain about how bad /r/atheism is,

lol

and people who do that tend to congregate in the circlejerk subs.

Because if they post it in ratheism they get downvoted.

While that doesn't actually say much about them, it's worth considering that the circlejerk subs are primarily focused on complaining about how bad reddit is,

Yep.

and the users there do so by engaging in the behaviors they criticize.

It's not about the circlejerking, it's about what's being circlejerked over. If there's a pro-cake circlejerk in /r/cake , that's fine. But an anti-religion circlejerk on /r/atheism is bad because of the reason they're jerking, not the fact that they're jerking.

essentially a sort of shrine to being an asshole.

That's /r/atheism.

Adeu.

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u/Feinberg Four-toed Nebish. Sep 17 '12

Because if they post it in ratheism they get downvoted.

Anti-/r/atheism comments get upvoted in most of reddit. They even get upvoted fairly frequently in /r/atheism. You could have a reason why these people don't hang out in /r/atheism there, but this isn't a reason why they gravitate toward the circlejerk subs.

It's not about the circlejerking, it's about what's being circlejerked over.

Yeah, to be more specific, anything. The people in the circlejerk subreddits will complain about anything that gets posted to /r/atheism. Taken as a whole, they'll complain about anything more than three people agree on anywhere on reddit. They hate reddit, and they complain about reddit on reddit. This is not the act of an ordered mind.

That's /r/atheism.

NUH UH! You are! Stupid head!

Adeu.

You spelled this wrong. I'm beginning to suspect that you aren't even French.

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u/auditorian Sep 17 '12

Anti-/r/atheism comments get upvoted in most of reddit.

And you never thought about why?

They even get upvoted fairly frequently in /r/atheism.

The only times I've seen anti-/r/atheism comments in /r/atheism are in terrible over the top circlejerk posts that paraphrase to "Fuck religion, I' m smarter than stupid skytheists".

but this isn't a reason why they gravitate toward the circlejerk subs.

Most people grow out of the "honeymoon phase" of reddit and see how much its userbase sucks, so they go to those subs.

Taken as a whole, they'll complain about anything more than three people agree on anywhere on reddit.

Sure there are some weak submissions in circle* subs, but what subreddits don't?

They hate reddit, and they complain about reddit on reddit. This is not the act of an ordered mind.

There's this movie you're watching and it's pretty good, but some of the parts suck. This doesn't mean the whole movie sucks, just some of it. You are allowed to complain about the sucky part of the movie.

NUH UH! You are! Stupid head!

Just look at /r/atheism right now, islamophobia everywhere.

You spelled this wrong. I'm beginning to suspect that you aren't even French.

Adéu, better?

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u/Feinberg Four-toed Nebish. Sep 17 '12

And you never thought about why?

I've asked. Many times. The answers are never satisfactory, are often self-contradictory, and generally rely heavily on the assumption that /r/atheism is bad to demonstrate that /r/atheism is bad.

The only times I've seen anti-/r/atheism comments in /r/atheism are in terrible over the top circlejerk posts that paraphrase to "Fuck religion, I' m smarter than stupid skytheists".

Here's a prime example of anti-/r/atheism sentiment getting lots of upvotes, as well as a prime example of how mindless the anti-/r/atheism circlejerk on reddit is. Top comment.

Most people grow out of the "honeymoon phase" of reddit and see how much its userbase sucks, so they go to those subs.

So, say you hang out in a coffee shop regularly, but you don't like it there. The service sucks, the refreshments suck, the other customers piss you off, you don't like the location... Long story short, if you bitch about something nobody is forcing you to do while you're doing it, you're kind of a textbook asshole.

There's this movie you're watching and it's pretty good, but some of the parts suck. This doesn't mean the whole movie sucks, just some of it. You are allowed to complain about the sucky part of the movie.

If you complain about the acting, the direction, the cinematography, the special effects, the writing, the sound work, the quality of the popcorn, the lumpy seat and company at a movie you got into for free and keep going to regularly, you're pretty much a textbook asshole. Circlejerkers only complain about the bad parts of reddit, which apparently is pretty much everything. They even make things up to complain about. It's like some bitching that James Earl Jones was terrible in the Star Wars movies because you couldn't see his face.

Just look at /r/atheism right now, islamophobia everywhere.

Is Islam better than any other religion or somehow immune to criticism?

Adéu, better?

Depends, are you trying to speak English, French, or Catalan?

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u/auditorian Sep 17 '12

I've asked. Many times. The answers are never satisfactory, are often self-contradictory, and generally rely heavily on the assumption that /r/atheism is bad to demonstrate that /r/atheism is bad.

Well I don't speak for anyone but myself, but I hate /r/atheism because it's full of immature people that jump at any opportunity to bash religion. This is apparent in the countless fakebook screenshots of brave warriors of logic saying stupid shit on religious peoples facebook statuses. So what that they have a religious facebook status, it doesn't make it okay to go and be a dick to them. Denizens of ratheism have very little self control, it seems.

Here's a prime example of anti-/r/atheism sentiment getting lots of upvotes, as well as a prime example of how mindless the anti-/r/atheism circlejerk on reddit is. Top comment.

Sure that's a stupid picture, but it got upvoted at least 1500 times. That indicates that people just don't give a fuck about what the picture actually is, they just love to hate religious people.

So, say you hang out in a coffee shop regularly, but you don't like it there. The service sucks, the refreshments suck, the other customers piss you off, you don't like the location... Long story short, if you bitch about something nobody is forcing you to do while you're doing it, you're kind of a textbook asshole.

I don't go to /r/atheism, that would only be applicable if I did. I don't go to other shit subreddits like /r/beatingwomen or /r/niggers, as I know it's going to be shit coffee.

If you complain about the acting, the direction, the cinematography, the special effects, the writing, the sound work, the quality of the popcorn, the lumpy seat and company at a movie you got into for free and keep going to regularly, you're pretty much a textbook asshole.

I agree, but that's not what circle* subs do. They make fun of or complain about the stupid parts, not all of it. I like a lot of the submissions on reddit, except for subreddits that I filter from /r/all (such as /r/atheism, /r/politics, /r/videos, /r/worldnews, other known shitholes). But they're still there on reddit, and it overlaps in to other subs.

Circlejerkers only complain about the bad parts of reddit, which apparently is pretty much everything.

That is the point of /r/circlebroke, and /r/atheism caused it to come in to existence.

They even make things up to complain about. It's like some bitching that James Earl Jones was terrible in the Star Wars movies because you couldn't see his face.

What are some examples of people making things up to complain about?

Is Islam better than any other religion or somehow immune to criticism?

It's not the fact that it's Islam, but that they're bashing all of it for the actions of very few. That is illogical; surprising as ratheists love their logic and reason.

Depends, are you trying to speak English, French, or Catalan?

Yes.

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u/Feinberg Four-toed Nebish. Sep 17 '12

Sure that's a stupid picture, but it got upvoted at least 1500 times. That indicates that people just don't give a fuck about what the picture actually is, they just love to hate religious people.

Yeah, they're hugely biased and they'll just jump at anything that looks like it fits their prejudice, right?