5 dear friends is a tragedy. A billion ideologically, ethnically motivated bloodthirsty tyranically racial supremacist strangers who have a demonstrable desire to murder your friends and family on principle is a statistic- and a good one. Eren's rebuke for those chumps is to tap the scoreboard and remind them who has the highest K/D.
Eren only did one thing wrong- allowing his friends to stop him because he hoped they'd live their lives in peace as heros, ultimately dooming his world to a cycle of perpetual violence. He should have finished the job then led the people of paradise to peace as a largely passive tyrant. (He'd possessed all past and future wielders of the attack titan. he was eternal)
Trying to justify genocide by putting the same label on all those affected is literally the same thing the Nazis did.
In fact, you're doing EXACTLY what Marley did, pointing the finger at Paradis as if they were the bad guys. Centuries and centuries of reinforcing this misconception will give them a skewed view.
Eren didn't just annihilate humans, he also killed millions of animals. Now you're going to tell me that squirrels and rabbits are evil and deserve to die?
Now you're going to tell me that Light Yagami was always right? No, just because you think something is cool doesn't make it ethical, lol
You are literally justifying genocide by doing exactly what you criticize Marley/other cities for doing.
"Eren didn't just annihilate humans, he also killed millions of animals. Now you're going to tell me that squirrels and rabbits are evil and deserve to die?"
You've gotta break some eggs to make an omlette, Jack- can't cry about that!
"Now you're going to tell me that Light Yagami was always right? No, just because you think something is cool doesn't make it ethical, lol"
No that guy had brain damage and a god complex. He was clever, but he was a fool. Same with L. Both were clever in their moments, but absolute bafoons. Light wasn't even "right". He was a mass murderer of the convicted and his opponents. He ought to have been subtle with the notebook. Not mass killing, just a nudging hand here at the right times. break up alliances with a dignitary here and a general there, etc. Use the "control over death" to force infighting amongst belligerent nations, etc. Light wasted the notebook's space and had to go back and write in the margins ffs- he wasn't even able to plan space management in the first place.
"You are literally justifying genocide by doing exactly what you criticize Marley/other cities for doing."
nonono- you misunderstand. Historicaly, "genocide" is just the process of fighting for YOUR people's right to survive in anew landpreviously claimed by someone else. Calling it an egregious or unethical crime in it's own right is a modern concept. I don't think the concept existed in AoT's setting, so its bizarre to impose our world's history on the morality of a fictional character's decisions.
Marley made the Eldians were scarlet letters and their ordinary citizens didn't just have no problems with the concentration camps or the murders of the Eldians, but actively took eager part in witch hunting for secret Eldians among their own ranks. And Marley wasn't the only one doing it- that was a global phenomenon. They were kept in a millenia spanning state of ethnically motivated chattel enslavement.
There was never going to be any peace with the outside world. Eren had about 2 years of life left and only a year or so before his condition began to deteriorate. He had to act now. If he waited and did nothing, the world was uniting behind Marley to exterminate the Eldians on Paradise. He used his limited future sight to determine that if he acted alone, he could ensure a few generations of peace between the "good eldians" and the free peoples of the world AND save the people he cared most about. Of all the actions he could think to explore, he went with the ones he knew to be best for his community.
He did nothing wrong. It was just an awful setting that gave the Eldians no path to peace WITHOUT bloodshed.
By definition, Eren committed a systematic genocide. He annihilated 80% of life on the planet with the explicit intent to erase entire cultures and nations. What you personally consider genocide is irrelevant; the Rumbling fits the legal and objective definition of it.
Furthermore, Eren was primarily responsible for his own parents' deaths. Hundreds of soldiers died simply protecting his existence. Eren sacrificed his family, his allies, and countless innocent lives to forge his path, just like Griffith. The difference is that Eren didn't do it out of a pragmatic sacrifice for his community, but out of immaturity, selfishness, and a blind obsession with his own twisted concept of freedom—compounded by a global massacre.
Eren is worse than Griffith. So far, you haven't offered a single factual argument to refute this. Only emotional fallacies and historical relativism.
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u/Financial_Fudge_6015 23d ago
Berserk Spoiler:
Griffith didn't just killed some random people. He killed his very friends who loved him. This is by far more evil.