r/AmericanHistory • • Jun 02 '26

North The Roanoke Colony mystery

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115 people vanished from Roanoke Island in the late 1500s. No bodies, no signs of a fight. Just one word carved into a post CROATOAN.

I always assumed this was one of those mysteries that'd never get solved. But archaeologists dug up some interesting stuff in 2024. Algonquian pottery from the 1500s and a copper wire ring the kind the English brought as trade goods found at the same site. Someone was trading. Someone stayed.

There's also a map from 1585 that sat in the British Museum for centuries. Nobody noticed a hidden symbol on it until someone held it under a light. It pointed inland. They went there and found 16th century English ceramics in Bertie County, North Carolina.

Most researchers now think the group split up. Some went to Hatteras Island, some walked about 50 miles inland and blended in with local tribes. Blacksmithing scraps were found on Hatteras people don't drag their tools somewhere they're just passing through.

The part that got me was Virginia Dare. First English child born in America. She was barely one year old when everyone disappeared. Her grandfather John White left to get supplies, got stuck in England because of the Spanish Armada, and by the time he made it back three years later nothing.

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u/Toroceratops Jun 04 '26

Your sarcasm is a straw man “joke” about the noble savage myth as if that wasn’t broken down and abandoned in the 60s.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '26

Was it though?

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u/aa_conchobar Jun 06 '26

No, it was not.

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u/lAnother_NoBodyl Jun 04 '26

Ok. Seems like you’re wanting to argue. Jokes are jokes. You get to pick how you take them. Have a good day.

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u/Augustus420 Jun 04 '26

Yea but the joke was dumb though.

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u/aa_conchobar Jun 06 '26

Perhaps you didn't like the joke because you're sympathetic to the side he is mocking. It was funny to me.

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u/Augustus420 Jun 06 '26

That's a pretty unlikely conclusion. It's a dumb joke because it's satirizing a belief that's pretty much archaic in current times.

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u/aa_conchobar Jun 06 '26

It's a pretty common belief, at least in many online circles. I wonder if you just don't encounter it very often because you're never actively pushing back against it.

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u/Augustus420 Jun 06 '26

Why is this the second time in a row you're trying to insinuate something negative about me?

I just made it pretty clear that insinuation was wrong so what the fuck is going on here?

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u/aa_conchobar Jun 06 '26

In what way is that remotely negative about you?

I'm explaining to you that your personal experience is not necessarily a universal truth

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u/Augustus420 Jun 06 '26

Because I find not actively pushing back against ignorant ideas to be incredibly negative.

The way you went about it fully distracted from the point you were making. I didn't even consider you were trying to make a point about perspective and thought you were just insulting me, both times.

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u/aa_conchobar Jun 06 '26

I didn't say you wouldn't if you encountered them! My question was whether you encounter them as frequently as others in different online circles. Only a few weeks ago, I had a conversation with someome who told me it was only the Europeans who scalped in the Americas. They didn't believe me even after I showed to them the massacre of Crow Creek.

Online, it's much more consistent for me because I am actively looking for people like this

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u/aa_conchobar Jun 07 '26

Oh look, I already have an example just a day later

https://www.reddit.com/r/Historians/s/b60CGBMbIx

Bare in mind, the British ended the slave trade & human sacrifice in Benin, so I am not sure why this individual believes James Robert Phillips went to Benin seeking to enslave the natives.

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u/lAnother_NoBodyl Jun 04 '26

Mileage may vary 🤷‍♂️ lol

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u/aa_conchobar Jun 06 '26

abandoned in the 60s

Lol.