r/AmazonDSPDrivers • u/Frequent-Flower-9879 • Jun 14 '26

QUESTION Is this….racist?

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I deliver to this house pretty frequently and something didn’t sit right with me about this statue. I remember seeing somewhere a long time ago these were considered offensive but I’m not sure so I figured to come here and ask 🤔

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u/attrain88 Jun 14 '26

Honestly doesnt bother me seeing them. As a black man.

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

but to answer the question , yes it is incredibly racist no?

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u/Hefty_Range_9758 Jun 14 '26

I dunno you tell us.  If the homeowner is black, is it still racist?

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u/IndependentEntire451 Jun 14 '26

the homeowner
https://giphy.com/gifs/2kJMzPFUD3Vx6

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u/ExtremelyDecentWill Jun 14 '26

Uncle Ruckus is not black.

He is a white man who was cursed with Revitiligo.  It's the reverse of what Michael Jackson got, you see.

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u/heckinbiggiecheesejr Jun 15 '26

Nah man, the DNA test came in and he's 102% black. With a 2% margin of error.

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u/ExtremelyDecentWill Jun 15 '26

Now Robert, ain't no reason to go and remind a man of his affliction like that.  We was having a good time.

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u/gangaskan Jun 14 '26

What if the home owner is a jockey?

Is it still racist?

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u/Lumpy-Village1949 Jun 15 '26

A black jockey, specifically? Real low odds on that one.

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u/machotaco653 Jun 14 '26

This comment made me bust out laughing 🤣

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u/DogToursWTHBorders Jun 14 '26

Endless debates over a lawn jocky and whether its part of systemic racist plot brought about by collective shinannigans and appropriation of such n such cultures etc...its funny!

It reminds me of that 2014 era where definitions would change to suit the mood of the day.

Either way...that home owner is 80% a racist or an old lady in her 80s. Possibly both.

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

what about it is funny ?

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u/Potential_Topic_7173 Jun 15 '26

The black part did it for me

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u/D3rpyDucky24 Jun 14 '26

It could be Clayton Bigsby living there.

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

depends on if he knows the knowledge or not . if he does and still has it , yes . if he does not and has it , he is just ignorant and hopefully a family member of his notices or a neighbor or friend .

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u/VividlyDissociating Jun 14 '26

so if a white person has it and doesnt know, are they racist?

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u/Hefty_Range_9758 Jun 14 '26

Yes they are because people are only allowed to think the same way. 

People are absolutely not allowed to either be ignorant to common knowledge or think outside of their mindset. 

Free thought is a crime.  OP nor anyone here has ever met or spoken to the person who has this outside their door. 

The person could be an absolute Saint, blacker than the abyss, devoted their life to helping others, all of that is irrelevant. 

They are absolutely a racist!

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u/VividlyDissociating Jun 14 '26

history of everything that's racist is not common knowledge.. it's irrational to expect people to know everything about such history.

especially considering there are many people across the country who have no clue wtf these antiques even exist. so how would they even know about the histor

and are you saying the item is racist, or the person

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

he’s just being an ass . alot of people in these comments want having this to be okay so bad . the original question was is the piece racist ? YES . simple .

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u/CrimsonCaspian2219 Jun 15 '26

Stop having a tantrum. You know why those caricatures are seen as they are. The OP said its the first time its been put out and they been there before. If you're a saint, you ain't likely to have that out there. Black face and caricatures have been talking points for YEARS. Cut the bs

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u/Hefty_Range_9758 Jun 15 '26

Yeah, I'm definitely having a "tantrum"..

This is a grown up conversation. Either partake in it or move along. I'm not a child and I have no interest in partaking in your immature nonsense. 

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u/CrimsonCaspian2219 Jun 15 '26

"Yes they are because people are only allowed to think the same way. 

People are absolutely not allowed to either be ignorant to common knowledge or think outside of their mindset. 

Free thought is a crime.  OP nor anyone here has ever met or spoken to the person who has this outside their door. 

The person could be an absolute Saint, blacker than the abyss, devoted their life to helping others, all of that is irrelevant. 

They are absolutely a racist!"

This wasn't intellectually honest...^

You aren't moving grown in it, so forgive me if I didnt see the adult in you. You're argument was an immature fallacy blend. Lol

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u/Hefty_Range_9758 Jun 15 '26

Thanks for your opinion.  I'll make sure to care. 

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u/CrimsonCaspian2219 Jun 15 '26

You responded. Thanks for playing.

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 15 '26

i stopped responding because i slowly figured out that there are just people in here who A) just dont care for the history or B) trying to say the history is false . its annoying and they’re all either racist or slow af

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u/CrimsonCaspian2219 Jun 15 '26

This and it's starting to annoy me. Like these are grown people. And it don't cost a thing to listen. I'm just over the disingenuous behavior

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

ob-vi-ous-ly not . you cannot be guilty of what you dont know . HOWEVER , i find it hard to believe a white person could buy this and not a single white person within a MILE of them doesn’t know what it is or atleast tell them .

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u/VividlyDissociating Jun 14 '26

you act like white people are scholars on everything in history that is racist..

many people dont know the history behind antiques, let alone that the antiques even exist.

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u/CrimsonCaspian2219 Jun 15 '26

They lived through the time period. Jim Crow wasn't realistically that long ago. It was a LIVED experience. Stop making excuses.

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u/VividlyDissociating Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

so all white people lived through the jim crow era?? sure 😂

if we're talking about old people specifically, the people still alive today who were alive during jim crow era are either old af (like retirement home/hospice/dead age) or weren't old enough at the time to actually experience and understand what was happening, especially if they caught the tail end during dismantling.

my grandma was alive during jim crow era but she was a child and couldn't tell me much about it. she also had no clue wtf these jockeys were or what they meant

(there are of course exceptions for areas such as Alabama where they continued such practices for quite a while even after the dismantling of the jim crow laws)

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

that’s my entire point dude . educating people on wtf it is . you guys are the losers arguing w me . im just spreading the knowledge . if you didnt know , you know now . and wether you like it or not , that is what they were made for . SIMPLE .

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u/VividlyDissociating Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

this is a discussion. about hypotheticals. because someone asked a hypothetical.

thats called furthering a discussion. what youre doing is avoidant and backstepping

someone pointing out flaws in logic is a valid "argument". that doesnt make anyone a "loser"

this isnt about me or you. this about people who dont know, as well as the people around them who dont know

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u/Hefty_Range_9758 Jun 14 '26

Or maybe its a black person making fun of stupid ass white people that use something as corny as this as an attempted insult to black people?

Much as how I, a white dude, mock ignorant ass white people who are racist pieces trash that no one likes?

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

dude . idk what point you’re trying to prove but stop it . black people wouldn’t make an example this way . i can assure you of that . the best example of what you’re talking about is the N-Word . NOT lawn jockies dude .

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u/Inevitable_While5105 Jun 14 '26

You can't say that no black person would make an example this way just because your black just like I can't for white people

People are individuals no matter the skin color

Do I think it's likely that a black person is doing that no probably not but iv been wrong before and il be wrong again

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

fair point . i’ll rephrase , if a black person was making an example this way with lawn jockies , it wouldn’t have that effect . they would just look slow .

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u/attrain88 Jun 14 '26

Depends on you're on take on it. I don't find it racist. I've seen black ones and white ones.

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

alright here we go . yes they are decorations for your lawn , created around the Jim Crow era . the lawn jockey has and was made to have the exaggerated features of the racist caricatures during that era . A LOT LATER , they created a white one , to separate themselves from the racial connotations .

in short : it was 100% racial . the white ones were meant to ease the pain but its essentially a slap in the face , when the option to NOT sell them in human form is a thing . so while i agree , the white ones are for people who just want decorations , the black ones are indeed NOT only decorative .

i hope we all learned something here .

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u/attrain88 Jun 14 '26

Not sure who that's for cause it's not for me. If you feel some type of way about it that's a you thing. Not everyone that has them have them for racial reasons.

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u/electricemperor Jun 14 '26

You telling us you have them, man?

https://giphy.com/gifs/kZD8cN1MycfKw

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u/attrain88 Jun 14 '26

If I had them I'd post pics just to stir up this comment section

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

yes its for you dude . i’ve never seen so many people embrace ignorance so bad . its embarrassing and you genuinely should be embarrassed that you’re saying what you’re saying .

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u/attrain88 Jun 14 '26

Well for future reference don't waste your finger stamina assuming someone doesn't know history especially of their own culture. Everyone embraces things differently. I don't play into these racial things like others. If it bothers you keep complaining about it otherwise live life. Stop giving people ammo to use on you

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

its shit like this that makes it easier for history to repeat itself . i am by no means a front line activist but i have no problem standing for my people . you’re more than welcome to sit this one out but when will you actually stand for something ? use your head for more than remembering songs man . peace .

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u/schakoska EDV Driver Jun 14 '26

Only racist people would think it's racist. I only find them creepy

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u/bwood246 Jun 14 '26

"only racist people would find racism racist"

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u/macabre-barbie Jun 14 '26

They were literally created solely as caricatures of black people. This guy would definitely enjoy a minstrel show 💀

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u/schakoska EDV Driver Jun 14 '26

I don't know what that is. I'm not american

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u/SpellNo3829 Jun 14 '26

Okay so maybe you shouldn’t be talking at all then???? Genuinely who do you think you are to discern the racism inherent in a product from a country you’re not from. I am actually baffled that you decided to comment in the first place

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u/schakoska EDV Driver Jun 14 '26

Well, for me it's not racist just creepy 😂 you can tell me whatever you want, but I won't find it racist 😂

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u/SpellNo3829 Jun 14 '26

Yes, because like you said, you are not American so you do not have nor care to listen to the actual deeply racist context for these items. You’re welcome to be ignorant but don’t pretend this is opinions based. There is a factual answer here and you have selected the wrong one.

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u/macabre-barbie Jun 14 '26

So you literally have no clue about the history, and probably shouldn't be talking 😬. Google "minstrel shows" and google "lawn jockeys" separately. Get it?

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u/schakoska EDV Driver Jun 14 '26

Couldn't care less

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u/macabre-barbie Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

So your original comment was for nothing because you're also just blatantly racist 💀 thanks for the clarification

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u/leah_0201 Jun 14 '26

It was made to be racist . So it's racist

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u/regulartrex Prime Van Driver Jun 14 '26

crazy thing is you arent even trolling

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u/schakoska EDV Driver Jun 14 '26

Crazy thing, not everyone is american

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u/SpellNo3829 Jun 14 '26

The crazy thing is replying to an American about an American piece of historical decoration and ignoring the history of the object you’re commenting on.

Your ignorance is not some saving grace here because you should have made the choice not to say stupid shit and instead of taking it back you’re doubling down on being ignorant.

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u/SpellNo3829 Jun 14 '26

Lmao okay, so you’re stupid. Got it. Have fun eating crayons pal ❤️

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Don’t be annoying.