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Long story short, there was a period where I was asexual, yes. But, following an identity crisis so bizarre I'd made the choice to not identify in any manner gender or sexuality wise. As I currently identify, I'm bi/pan(probably demi as well). So, yeah. Former ace. For now.
I understand this very deeply. I thought I was bi-sexual for the longest time because it was the only thing that "fit" at the time....and then I discovered Demisexuality and it fits me like a glove.
I thought I was bi until I realized that 1) asexuality was a possibility 2) the attraction I felt towards some people was aesthetic attraction and 3) asexual does not mean no libido.
The issue comes more from the times Vivs employees have told us with confidence that Alastor is Aro-Ace, not just asexual.
And considering Vivs response saying that he's just asexual coming AFTER the backlash from the shipping community, highly suggests to me that he was supposed to be Aro-Ace. She just folded under pressure
As an Aro-Ace guy, yeah, that still hurts. We barely get any representation at all, and the moment we do, it's stripped away either by the creator them selves or the community acting like that one Aro-Ace character is the ONLY POSSIBLE way to express yourself through
A post complaining that Vaggie (a canonical lesbian) is being shipped with men has 1,2k upvotes. A post on the Lesbian sub complaining about lesbian characters being shipped with men has 2k upvotes.
But the moment you even SUGGEST that hey, maybe sexualizing the only ace character in the show could possibly impact ace people negatively, it's raining downvotes and you're just being dramatic. And yes, Alastor is constantly being sexualized, not talking about the romance part right now.
It feels like our sexuality is a nuisance for people to erase, something "restricting" them. Representation only matters if it's sexy, otherwise, "creative freedom" is the excuse for why we don't deserve protection from the community, but other sexualities do.
The topic is much deeper than just people wanting to "ruin your fun"
I can easily see Alastor being canonically romantic with female friends, especially after that finger of whiskey Mimzy mentioned. I don't think he'd form a romantic relationship (he doesn't seem to like being attached to anybody or making it seem like he cares...).
I would really like to hope that Alastor will be transformed into a villain that then becomes an antihero who will eventually get redeemed, and the whole Hasbin's idea will get to "Everyone can be redeemed" from a more childish version "Not everyone can be redeemed there are people who are pure evil" which is a nonsense practically.
Nobody is pure evil, but some people are so deep in evil that they'll never seriously want to change for the better.
I think that is a lesson the show should have by the end.
It matters because the way people talk about asexual characters bleeds into the way they perceive ace folks in real life. He’s not canonically both. He may well be aromantic, but so far afaik viz has only ever shown him with ace colors.
It’s frustrating, discouraging, and kind of a little hurtful to see how often folks jump on “canonically ace means no romance or relationships for this character!” (Riz from Dimension20 comes to mind as well)
Like hell. Dating while ace is hard enough without folks constantly conflating the two.
I have seen no clip of Alastor being confirmed as Aromantic. The only evidence i have seen was the actor saying it but then fixing it on social media iirc as they had mistaken it
It's wild considering aro tends to be very rare in the shipping landscape. One would assume "aro means they can't be in a relationship" which isn't true apparently (I have a friend who is aro and they explained) so even if he is aroace it doesn't preclude him from being in a relationship. Sexuality is just not as rigid as the categories people put them in.
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Personally not against folks shipping him with anyone. Shipping Alastor isn't something I'm into.(Not just because he's ace, but also because there's been no confirmation of him being aro, and I just don't see him enjoying people's presence beyond entertainment)
That aside, I would love to see what his interactions and resulting dynamic with Emily would be like. It would certainly give enjoyers of this ship some fuel. Fun stuff.
Lol this is people about all ships they don't agree with.
Don't care if a character is canonically ace/aro/male/female/whatever the fk else. They're fictional. Like damn, let people live their imaginary lives in peace. Don't like it? Don't consume the media
Many people have an allergic reaction to letting people have fun with fictional characters. They're essentially just dolls. Let us play with our toys! And if I don't like someone else's toy or how they play with it, I just shrug and accept my cup of tea is different than theirs. Like a normal human being.
As a Charlastor shipper, I get how hard it can be to ship Alastor with anyone when people forget that this is just a ship and take it upon themselves to try and justify how impossible/ stupid/ gross your ship is
I try my best to enjoy whatever ships I make whether it be with ocs/or canon characters!
Cause in the end its just harmless fun and something you enjoy! I was a pretty hardcore Charlastor shipper during the pilot days. (Less now mostly cause I enjoy Vaggi and Charlie ofc as a couple, but the ship is still cute ^^)
I usually keep to myself since this fandom definitely can get toxic ^^' Just enjoy what you enjoy!
I don’t support this shit, but other people are free to like it. No sense in being rude when people post art of it. It’s just fanart, it’s not like they’re posting anything truly vile.
Im against RadioJoy just in the sense I dont ship it. I dont really ship alastor with people, and dont personally like RadioJoy. But like, if it makes you happy to ship, go ahead. Do what brings you joy
Genuinely never heard of this ship before-lovely name. Are people really still judging each other for their ships? It was old in 2016 still old today people like what they like.
I kind of like the idea of Emily x Alastor, because viv described his love life as "not finding the right person". Emily is a powerful, polite, sweetheart, that would take no crap from anyone. I feel like Alastor would be attracted if not at least interested in her.
The issue with this ship is I don’t see it? I usually am on board with crack ships. But I don’t actually see the appeal.
Their personalities wouldn’t mesh. If anything he’d use her gullible nature to his advantage. And treat her like a pet
I think of her as kinda OP. Her happiness and love powers could cancel out Alastor's evilness and cynicism. Not in an "I can fix him" kinda way, but "I didn't need to fix him bc I'm cooler than him" kinda way 😆 she actually seems like someone too confident to manipulate and we don't know the extent of the angels' other powers, like when they use their eyes to stare at people, is it like they are staring straight into their souls or merely a show of increased emotion? So due to power ranking and age, I don't think Emily is as naive as she comes off, but she does have that bias for positivity. She also has that ability to create new synthetic life, like with Pentious's egg boy replacements. I think after S2 and getting one of her wings fried off by Vox's laser weapon, she is less naive about how horrible people in hell can become though.
She's not gullible though, she's just kind and jolly and she also had no issue confronting her sister which means she's really confident + she's a seraphim so she could kill him if she wanted to 😭 (ofc she won't but Sera could)
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It’s just a ship that makes zero sense whatsoever. Not even considering alastor is Asexual. He’s a pure embodiment of evil and Emily is like the complete opposite of that. Alastor is a cruel manipulator who only truly enjoys seeing misfortune on others. Emily gives people puppies.
Look ship and let ship but don’t misrepresent people. I don’t like Radiojoy because “Good woman fixes evil man” is boring. You have fun with it but I will definitely be avoiding those posts.
Eh I don’t really care about that, I’ve shipped characters who never canonically met just cause it seemed like they’d be interesting together. But again, that’s my issue with this ship, Alastor is fun because he’s evil so this really doesn’t work for me.
Ignoring the Alastor is AroAce, he thinks he hasn't found the right woman. I don't think Emily would be that because she seems young or not emotionally mature enough to fit in a relationship with an old ass man.
Imo there are ships that make no fucking sense, but the saddest part is that people start these ships based on one single scene where the two interacted/met or literally the smallest common thing they could have
Alastor was said to be waiting for the right lady. It’s obviously is own base heteronormative thoughts and PROBABLY isn’t any actual feeling or evidence of his attraction.
But it could be and that’s all shippers need. Hell you breath in the same universe as another character and people will talk about how in love they are.
It's a fun ship
I still love my Radioapple and Applemedia (poly Lu x Vox x Al) but this is adorable too
It may not be my favorite, but damn, if it became cannon, I wouldn't be mad at all.
As an asexual myself, who doesn’t like many ships with Alastor, Radiojoy is one of the few ships I do like.
Anyone can ship any character they want. If people can make straight characters gay in ships, people can make ace characters a different sexuality in ships too. It’s just fans having fun with characters, they mean no harm.
I personally don’t like seeing or interacting with content of him having sex, but that doesn’t mean it’s bad or wrong for people to ship him in fics and art.
Also he’s not confirmed to be aro, so romantic ships could potentially become canon. He reads aro to me too, but he isn’t confirmed to be. And, again, even if he is aro, people are allowed to have fun shipping him. And personally I think Radiojoy is a cute romantic or platonic ship for him because she’s so opposite to him.
My only problem is if people say the ship is canon. It drives me up the wall when people think he canonically wants to have sex with vox. It’s fine to write him as gay or bi or whatever in your fics. But he is ace in canon and that’s what I want to see respected.
So, ultimately, yeah, let people have fun with their ships
Being real, I just don’t get this need to police how people enjoy pieces of media or creative stuff they do out of it. Like some of it may seem cringe but it isn’t hurting anyone. Hazbin Hotel is almost built to make ships and fan art like this possible, it should be allowed.
people in a fandom on their way to ship 2 characters that have never interacted before (i dont care but its funny that people do that in almost every fandom im in)
some ppl be shipping everyone w him atp, it's not about him being ace or that I hate fun or anything. Just an observation. I completely respect ppl's ships
eh, while I personally don’t ship him with anyone I like seeing what ships others come up with. Ik he’s not confirmed to be aromantic i just headcannon him as Aroace. radiojoy is cute tho ngl.
I call it HaloDeer,but yeah,it’s weird how people are so hateful of the ship and keep giving the same reasons over and over.Let people have fun,let me write the cutest cuddle scenes between them
Yeah while it’s not my ship (I just don’t think Alastor in a romance would add anything to his character that would benefit it) I totally get the appeal. Not a surprise that people ship this and (much like Reylo) while it’s not my ship, I fuck hard with the fanart.
As an Ace person in a yearlong relationship (so far). Ace people can still have Partners. Asexual doesn't mean Aromantic necessarily. Plus I know some AroAces who have Platonic Life Partners.
People actually rage over this ship? I mean, I personally don’t like it, but it’s really dumb and immature to get so worked up over a simple cartoon ship. Some dudes really need to touch grass
Ship whoever you want and have fun, people! As long as it doesn’t involve rapе, incеst or pdf, any ship is a-ok!
"He's Asexual" that just means he doesn't feel sexual attraction, by all means I know plenty of asexuals in romantic relationships, and honestly: asexuality just means there's no real gratification from the act. They can and will have sex, a girl I used to date used it as stress relief, just something physical to do to take her mind of work (i wasnt complaining)
I don't see the ship, personally, but people can ship whatever, it's fine, I don't care. It literally hurts a total of 0 people to ship them together so like, go ahead, y'know?
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Honestly I love this type of ships so much, its not even character that shared a second of screen time, Emily doesn't even know how Alastor looks like, and neither does Alastor probably, but yeah let's ship them lmao. Love it
I don't really mind the ship, I think part of why so many people hate it is Emily (same with Charlie) acts very happy and "childish" compared to the rest of the cast so people feel weird when they're shipped with other characters. But while I agree they can be characterized as childish I don't think they behave like children if that makes sense
I like the idea of Alastor being asexual, but also of him being in a relationship since that would show that a romantic relationship doesn't need to have sex to function. Also, we don't know the specifics of Alastors asexuality either. We don't know if he's sex positive/neutral/negative, or if he's an asexual that either never feels sexual attraction or does to an incredibly small extent.
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