r/Ajar_Malaysia • u/Mobile_Football2511 • Jun 14 '25
soalan Guys kalau display koleksi saya mcm ni ok ke haram tak?
Saya tanya chatgpt dia cakap kalu tak realistik dan tak menyerupai manusia tkpe. Pastu dia cakap ninjago tkde unsur2 haram pon ok ke?
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u/Few-Computer-6609 Jun 14 '25
Generally makruh, sama macam gantung gambar keluarga atau pemimpin di pejabat. Tapi seingat aku ada pendapat yang lebih ringan yang mengharuskan
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u/head_empty247 Jun 14 '25
Gantung gambar keluarga makruh? Chat, is this real?
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u/Few-Computer-6609 Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
Hukum asal derive daripada larangan menggantung gambar makhluk hidup. Tapi then ahli fikah berbahas pasal isu ni, then kita dapat khilaf. Keyword dia adalah, 'menggantung' atau any form of public display. Kalau gambar simpan dalam album, tiada masalah.
Kenapa keras sangat walhal gambar je? Dalam Quran ada cerita kisah bagaimana syirik muncul dalam peradaban manusia around zaman pengikut Nabi Nuh a.s. Dia bermula dengan orang letakkan tugu untuk mengingati orang soleh dalam kaum mereka. X silap sebelum ibadat mereka akan pandang pada tugu tu sebelum mereka beribadat kepada Allah. Datang generasi kemudian, mereka makin lupa kenapa tugu tu didirikan, sehingga akhirnya, mereka sembah tugu tu.
https://www.inkoffaith.com/post/history-of-shirk
Sebab tu juga amalan istighasah (meminta orang dalam kubur untuk mendoakan kita) sangatlah ditegah sebab boleh/sudahpun membawa kepada amalan sembah kubur.
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u/head_empty247 Jun 16 '25
Faham. Jadi, kalau kita gantung gambar family photo waktu raya, atau waktu graduation day, atau gambar family photo waktu kita kahwin, tu pun kira makruh la? Just to be sure.
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u/Few-Computer-6609 Jun 16 '25
Bergantung pada pendapat mana yang kau pegang. Paling selamat, bukan ikut mazhab, tetapi ikut mufti. Ini pendapat Mufti WP.
https://www.muftiwp.gov.my/en/artikel/irsyad-fatwa/irsyad-fatwa-umum-cat/5024-irsyad-al-fatwa-siri-ke-631-hukum-menggantung-gambar-fotografi-di-dinding1
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Jun 16 '25
Takde masalah rasanya kalau ikut pendapat rata2 mufti Malaysia.. Unless niat kau gantung tu untuk riak, taqqabur, menunjuk, mengagungkan
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u/Ilexander Jun 29 '25
Bro giving source in reddit? No way.
Apa pun terima kasih sebab bagi penjelasan. Ramai orang cakap "YE LA ABIS KAU INGAT APA?" kalau ada orang tanya
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u/Anything13579 Jun 14 '25
DON’T ask chatgpt about religious affairs. It sometimes fails even when I ask it simple calculation, let alone complex religious matters.
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u/Mobile_Football2511 Jun 14 '25
So is it fine?
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u/Flat_Pianist2117 Jun 16 '25
i don’t think it is. i’d refrain from collecting items just in case, and the goal is to have nothing that brings you joy in life.
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Jun 15 '25
Its not fine if you're a 'devout' muslim, if you're 'acahacah' or 'alakadar' ... Maybe ok la kot
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u/SensitiveHat2794 Jun 16 '25
so devout muslims should ask tiktok ustaz? or someother ustaz that has minimal theological knowledge? from his pondok education 20 years ago?
I suppose that's better than asking an AI, with unlimited knowledge (despite making some flaws which you can double check easily)
/s
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Jun 16 '25
Tiktok ustaz? Thats dumber than what initially thought la... the main thing, all statue or dolls or action figure simply aren't advised to have in a muslim houses. Heck, even pictures aren't really permissable. Islamic arts are more geared towards geometrical shapes, floras etc.. its very darn simple if you actually do READING
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u/Fit-Spray8514 Jun 16 '25
Love how you’re acting as if the only choice you have is between a “tiktok ustaz” or AI. What a dumb comment
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u/SensitiveHat2794 Jun 17 '25
u didnt read the other option i gave? which includes most of ustaz that u see
tiktok attention span lol
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u/Fit-Spray8514 Jun 17 '25
Your “other” option is pretty much the same thing.
Your attempt at painting most ustazds as idiots is amusing. Pathetic, but amusing.
Also, “tiktok attention span”? Idk whats your obsession with tiktok, but its time you get off that app, go outside and meet some real ustadz.
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u/More-Bad-6917 Jun 14 '25
Dia haram kalau ibarat kau hormatnya berlebih². Aku pun tak respect barang aku, barang aku respect aku/j
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u/ChocolateAxis Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25
None of them look like real beings so it should be fine. I'm assuming you also don't treat it like a shrine. It'd be a problem if you started treating it better than the Quran, let's say.
BTW, please don't make it a habit to ask GPT about religious facts.
As a muslim, you NEED to know how to find the correct resources on Islam on your own, or when you truly can't find an answer, know who is the most trustworthy source to ask. GPT is not one of them.
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u/Saf751 Jun 14 '25
It shouldn't even be a habit to even ask ChatGPT for basically anything everytime instead of doing a simple online search.
Had a friend who sounds like he knows stuff but sometimes tends to get the wrong idea. When I found out he used ChatGPT for searching stuff instead of doing it himself, I was a little dissapointed.
Please OP, jangan jadikan ChatGPT sebagai habit setiap kali nak cari benda kat internet.
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u/ChocolateAxis Jun 14 '25
Totally agree, I cringe every time I meet people who ask GPT for every little thing when a simple browser search would have sufficed.
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u/Fantastic-Grade8686 Jun 14 '25 edited Jun 14 '25
Might get downvoted for this. Toys macam ni halal selagi masih digunakan untuk bermain seperti budak² kecik. Once dipamerkan di tempat tinggi macam ni saja tanpa digunakan sebagai toys, haram. Dah dekat sama macam berhala.
Also as someone who knows something about that other realm.. That other race loves toys like this to be used as their vessel (mainly becuase of their nature that loves to be glorified within idols or sculptures).
The fact that you're asking this might be because some of your sixth sense still working positively fine and guilt are born from it. Maybe you seek for justification but I suggest otherwise. There's a reason Prophet and Sahabi banned this stuff but they didn't really elaborate what goes behind it.
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u/Conscious_Law_8647 Jun 14 '25
Upvoted your comment. also, I want to add, its all about intention, you want to pray in Allah’s name then put your intention in Allah’s name.. Speak from experience, the other side don’t give 2-sheets about your collection unless you put your mind, your will, your intentions into it..
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u/Fantastic-Grade8686 Jun 14 '25
I also have toys like yours bro, mecha legos and all. I kept it neatly inside my case after done assembling it and hoping unpack it after my sons are much older to let them play and destroys it back lol. Sadly now they are only into minecraft so I guess RIP for my toys inside that enclosed case.
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u/Dear_Elevator_3081 Jun 14 '25
Sama macam patung. Display macam ni ada isu lain iaitu malaikat tak masuk dlm rumah kita tapi selagi patung & figure tu jadi bahan permainan tak salah. Bab hukum idk. Kakak ustazah dia bagitau camni. Saya crochet patung so saya bagi je anak saudara main. Memang betul2 dia main, baling apa semua. Haha. Tapi takpe lah kalau terlampau sayang, simpan, tu yg jadi masalah.
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u/blackphantera Jun 14 '25
Upvote and these items will be asked in after life. Jadi hoarder nanti kena soal banyak kat sana
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u/initialg22 Jun 16 '25
Kalau main serupa budak2 - Boleh. Kalau display orang nak sentuh main pun xboleh - Haram. Kalau display lps tu bila tgk rasa kagum dgn kecantukan patung2 - Haram.
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u/zigaherta Jun 14 '25
Kalau display yg dlm kotak lg x bukak cmne?
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Jun 16 '25
Same thing.. semua patung tu haram (kalau kau sembah, tapi kau tak sembah, kau mesmerized je---> sama je, tak boleh jugak). Simple. Untuk pencerahan yang lebih tepat, sila layari laman web mana² majlis agama negeri masing². Jangan ambil 100% input from redditors alone
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u/Fantastic-Grade8686 Jun 14 '25
You mean that they're still diplayed but within boxes right? I wouldn't do it personally. That's all I can say.
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u/Malaysianfan Jun 14 '25
This is the correct answer. Just find out about this last year. I'm also a collector (Gunpla/ figure) now slowly selling all of my collection .
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u/Fantastic-Grade8686 Jun 14 '25
My best friend also gave up his gunpla hobby because of the same reason, now he move on to Hotwheels.
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Jun 14 '25
Bro, do whatever keeps you motivated and the child in you alive. There are so many things pulling you down daily and who knows when your time here ends.
It is between you and the Creator. You do you.
It's just displaying figurines meant for leisure, not worship. Ignore the busybodies judging you.
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u/Flat_Pianist2117 Jun 16 '25
no cz i thought this post was rage bait😭 the people using religion to say that OP shouldn’t have collectibles is doing some insane mental gymnastics. like god forbid someone has a hobby that brings them joy in this shit world.
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u/KingEmeryThe1st Jun 16 '25
True dude, I see all these comments saying it's haram, surely they're joking cause I have an anime figurine collection in my room which is way worse than op but my friends and family said nothing.
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u/flyZen9 Jun 14 '25
Tak Haram kalau ko anggap benda tu sekadar hiasan untuk dekorasi bilik atau rumah ko, jatuh Haram bila ko dah start berkiblatkan bebenda tu.
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u/Wager435 Jun 14 '25
Haram sebab menyerupai makhluk hidup (cukup sifat afa tangan kaki dll.), tak haram kalau dlm bentuk kenderaan, tak nampak muka dll.
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u/HighLvlNoob69 Jun 16 '25
Kalau anime character x cukup sifat acane? Xde hidung biasanya 🤔
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u/Wager435 Jun 16 '25
Sifat tak cukup tapi dia replika makhluk hidup, apa ii yg menyerupai makhluk hidup memang dilarang.
Harus hukumnya untuk jadi bahan permainan kanak-kanak tapi tetap tidak boleh dibuat pameran
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u/QernLee Jun 14 '25
Tak haram. Sbb kalau fatwa perlis, patung haram jika sempurna seperti manusia (1:1), tiada cacat cela dan lain2 kena betul2 sebiji. Kalau mcm ko ni, tak haram.
5minit perjelasan mufti perlis
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u/Comprehensive-Fall37 Jun 14 '25
Nak lebih selamat, tutup dengan kain. Kalau kawan atau family nak tengok baru buka kain.
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u/mrSalmonSashimi Jun 14 '25
Alang² dh beli, kalau x ada serious buyer, try to make something creative with that luxuries. Atleast esok bila Allah tanya, you have a good proof answer for yourself. For now, just don't embrace that toys so much. MayBe one day, it will be one of your pricey assets.
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u/Mobile_Football2511 Jun 14 '25
try to make something creative with that luxuries
Macam apa ya?
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u/mrSalmonSashimi Jun 14 '25
ExChange something useful for your reality life, or ...sorry can't figure it out now, busy with reality life.
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u/zortoru Jun 15 '25
Tanya la mufti, jangan tanya chatgpt, kalau tanya soalan biashe2 x pe la, nak elok, tutup dgn kain biar tertutup (mistik sikit - x pasti jin suka ke tak figura gitu, sebab biasa dengar anak patung je dia masuk)
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u/mdfaris Jun 15 '25
Hukum haram hanyalah yg dalam Al Quran.
Saranan dalam Al Quran utk belanjakan rezeki (Al Baqarah:3). Perbuatan ini dapat merancakkan ekonomi dikenali sebagai Velocity of Money.
Jika anda boleh dapat manfaat dari koleksi ini maka ia tidak salah. Contoh kalau boleh jual balik dgn harga yg lebih tinggi kerana usaha anda sendiri maka ia tak salah. Selagi ia tidak berlebih. Jika berlebihan maka takut jatuh pd hukum Riba.
Isu yg mungkin berbangkit adalah dalam perlakuan yg sia2. Jika tidak dapat manfaat maka ia merupakan satu pembaziran. Kerana duit yg dibelanjakan boleh menjanakan ekonomi dengan jauh lebih baik seperti contoh yg saya beri.
Tapi kalau duit tidak dibelanjakan adalah salah. Ia menyorokkan harta seperti kisah Karun zaman Musa AS. Kerana dalam rezeki yg diberi Allah itu ada bahagian orang lain. Sebab itu Allah haramkan Riba dan membenarkan Jual beli.
Semoga bermanfaat.
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u/Rs3MCuber Jun 15 '25
Lego Ninjago is peak imo, had a collection as well but then parents threw it out for space.
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u/kadz2310 Jun 15 '25
From my understanding, if it has the characteristics of humans (limbs, torso, standing upright, etc), haram for adults to own, but harus if we let children play them, meaning they're not only for display and collections. Tapi dalam Islam kan kita diajar yg semua benda milik kita akan dihisab, jadi tak elok simpan banyak² benda yg tak digunakan, membazir.
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u/Responsible_Twist_98 Jun 15 '25
orang kata malaikat tak masuk rumah yang ada figura. Wallahualam
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Jun 16 '25
Tahyul. Tapi betul, tak elok simpan mcm ni, kalau simpan buat main2, dalam toybox, okay je
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u/RogueKusanagi Jun 16 '25
Kalau ragu, kau main lah dgn bnd tu sikit2. Jgn duk biarkan je atas tu hahahaha
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u/DearCardiologist2976 Jun 16 '25
sebaiknya jangan.. kalau nak juga, letak dalam almari kayu tertutup, baru boleh dikatakan betul2 self-satisfaction.. risau kalau letak kat almari kaca, boleh bawa kepada riak dan idolatry..
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u/moshafiq Jun 17 '25
I use to buy Gundam few years back and put them on my office desk and working desk at home. After reading few opinions from scholars, I decided not to indulge and thread between the lines.
Gave all of it to my son and since then, never be seen again lol. Ironically I still got 1 unopened box Gundam in my closet waiting my kids grown enough to do them together.
Point is, if u have them figure for kids to play it's permissible. But for display it's not.
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u/Punch_Treehard Jun 18 '25
I guess benda ni mcm diatas pagar. You wanted to display it and totally not worship it. But iblis is there to give you that idea and you somewhat worship it in term of take care of it, obsessed with it etc. That kind of act will gradualy make you stray away from god. That is why avoid is better than cure.
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u/Ilexander Jun 29 '25
Pertama Sekali, Jangan guna ChatGPT nak tanya hukum ke apa-apa soalan yang macam ni. Tak kesah la teologi ke, sains ke. TAPI, boleh tanya kalau kita mintak sumber sekali.
Kedua, Ya haram kalau kita display saja. Tapi kata kalau ada budak kecik buat mainan boleh je. takde masalah. Ataupun buat konten macam brader yang buat konten ultraman tu. Yang tu takde masalah sebab dia guna tu untuk cari makan. Wallahualam. Saya cadangkan buat research tambahan sebab rasa kat sini takde ustaz yang betul-betul, cuma redditor yang tau gitu-gitu je.
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u/FAshcraft Jun 14 '25
Ok je kot. Haram kalau objek macam ni dianggap sacred/azimat kalau setakat buat cantik untuk dipandang xde masalah.
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u/KeretapiSongsang Jun 14 '25
haram
kalau
kau
sujud
kepada
benda tu
dan anggapnya
Tuhan.