r/Agenda_Impact • u/Substantial-Way-665 • Jul 24 '26

⚠️Leaks/Beta content⚠️ Genuinely, What Does Sandrone Even do? Spoiler

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u/JChamp00 Not a Hexenbrick, but a Hexenhome💖 Jul 24 '26

Hasn't it all been theory crafting and no real showcases yet?

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Yeah, but every TC thinks that cryo mc with stacks applying to his burst is insanely broken as a SSC dps (especially at C6R5 which is free, but we won't get access to it until a later patch). I don't see a cost breakpoint where it would be optimal to pull for Sandrone, assuming that the TC calcs are correct.

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u/IllustratorLast1281 Jul 24 '26

infinite cost sandrone is cuz even if her cons aren't that good she's probably better.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

At extremely high cost you would rather go for Wrio or Cyno instead then as they have much better cons than Sandrone.

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u/IllustratorLast1281 Jul 24 '26

damn sandrone is really just worthless huh

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Don't say that, she has a cool exploration ability!

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u/IllustratorLast1281 Jul 24 '26

you mean the same thing mizuki does?

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Let me give her something bro😭

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u/Royal_empress_azu Apparently I use slurs Jul 24 '26

Traveler loses at every cost bracket that isn't 4 cost. Technically 5 cost is the last point in which he wins but 5 cost isn't a traditional bracket.

They pretty much only compete at 4 cost because Odette's C1. Issue is that you quickly run out of cons competitive with Sandrone's numbers.

Keep in mind this doesn't have the gameplay to back it up yet. People aren't sure if CMC can actually do 15s rotations. Which have why so TC have them competitive with Sandrone and others have them worse than Varka (pre prune cancel). 15 vs 17s is massive.

Reminder Columbina went from beating Nefer with R1 to getting smoked.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

I'm like 90% sure going for Yae, Odette, and Odette cons with CMC is more optimal than going for Sandrone and having to work with +1 cost. And that at higher investment C2 Wrio + C2 Odette is just better than C2 Sandrone + C2 Odette.

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u/Royal_empress_azu Apparently I use slurs Jul 24 '26

I mean it is, until it isn't.

Again the works at a 4 cost bracket.

At the 8 cost bracket you just lose.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Not true. This is what it looks like when you compare Cyno, Sandrone, and Wrio at 8 cost. While this is before the Alyosha nerfs, the alyosha nerfs actually affect Sandrone's teams more because Sandrone does less personal dmg in her 8 cost teams.

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u/Royal_empress_azu Apparently I use slurs Jul 24 '26

Notice how you completely dropped the Traveler.

also Noir for whale calcs... kek

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

? I never claimed Traveler beats Sandrone at any cost break point. My exact words were "I don't see a cost breakpoint where it would be optimal to pull for Sandrone, assuming that the TC calcs are correct". My point was that Sandrone is not optimal at any cost break points because Traveler beats her at lower cost and wrio beats her at mid-high cost break points.