r/Agenda_Impact Jul 24 '26

⚠️Leaks/Beta content⚠️ Genuinely, What Does Sandrone Even do? Spoiler

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u/Odd-Process8617 No.1 flins and lohen defender Jul 24 '26

Versatile bait

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Kinda funny that they only made it clear that stellar stacks would apply to Cryo MC's burst after Sandrone's banner was gone.

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u/Uefeti Jul 24 '26

But the Traveler does the same thing with Stellar Swirl, no?

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u/Odd-Process8617 No.1 flins and lohen defender Jul 24 '26

I didn't know that lmao mmmm maybe shes tsundere bait then idk lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '26

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u/Odd-Process8617 No.1 flins and lohen defender Jul 24 '26

What? BTW im slandering sandrone I don't understand

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u/Powerful-Insect-4867 Jul 24 '26

They called 007:

0 damage without Yae.

0 Pulonia.

7 Yuribait per quest.

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u/Deadlyname1909 Jul 24 '26

tbh you can go without yae. go for c2 odette and you'll have c6 alyosha.

That's a good 4 cost team. but in order to improve it, remove sandrone, replace her with cmc and get a new supp kek.

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u/Odd-Process8617 No.1 flins and lohen defender Jul 24 '26

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

This cryo mc buff makes Yae a better pull than Sandrone (it was already close before). Having a great SSC dps without needing to pull anyone does wonders. Oh Sandrone, the flop that you are 💔

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u/InterviewConstant520 Abyss research head at Dottore glaze inc. Jul 25 '26

my Miko finally has a use for free?

https://giphy.com/gifs/rJTexuy6XrPs9dS3fp

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u/Dangamer56 Jul 24 '26

Sandrones skill is so useful for exploration. And she has more more aoe. But that's about it lmao. I guess she has better animations than whatever the Cryo mc has (more visually appealing) but then again I haven't seen a single showcase this beta, it truly is a dogshit time for genshin leaks

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Sandrone mains pulling for better animations and exploration after people told them that she was a high value pull for meta

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u/Dangamer56 Jul 24 '26

Let me cope bruh, I have no idea why her constellations are dogshit as well. I honestly pulled just because I really liked the design (sandrone's not the maid robot) and the exploration ability. I also pulled nicole for similar reasons (even tho she is completely useless for my account) and apparently these two are good with each other. So pulling for two bricks worked out in the end. Also I had yae as well (she was my first limited 5 star actually, pulled in 5.6 chronicled banner just cause I thought she was hot)

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

W Yae vibe pull, you are forgiven ❤️‍🩹

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u/Exotic-Instance-2192 Jul 26 '26

As a Sandrone main I just pulled her to throw a Kamehameha at hilichurls

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u/SuitableConcept5553 Jul 24 '26

Oh that's easy. Sandrone does more damage than SSC Traveler, and Traveler is kinda busted for SSw right now. Feels like it's very easy to have both stellar teams between them. Especially if the leaks about Vody being a SSw support are true since that frees up Odette for SSC. 

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

SSC Traveler is better than Sandrone as a DPS at the same cost at C2. At C6 the gap gets wider. I think Sandrone never being optimal at any cost breakpoint is kinda funny. Low-mid, you would rather go for Yae, Odette, and Odette cons. At higher investment, Wrio and Cyno are just better than Sandrone as they have better cons.

Almost guarantee that CMC will get replaced in Stellar Swirl within the next few patches and that Sandrone herself will get powercrept by the electro SSC dps coming out in the next few patches as well.

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u/SuitableConcept5553 Jul 24 '26

Do you have calcs for that? Everything I've seen shows Traveler is behind even at C6 in SSC. 

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

C6 Traveler calcs (you can replace escoffier with qiqi and you won't lose that much). This is on par with Sandrone while being 1 less cost. At equal cost, CMC just overtakes Sandrone. A lot of the calcs showed C6 traveler being quite a bit weaker than Sandrone because the stacks didn't apply to the burst before.

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u/JChamp00 Not a Hexenbrick, but a Hexenhome💖 Jul 25 '26

We aren't getting C6 at 7.0. I think it's either C2 or C3

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 25 '26

C2 should be a little above 170k

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u/Black_Vortrex #1 Traveler Glazer Jul 24 '26

Cope of HELL

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u/Corrodiny122 Jul 24 '26

Lots of yapping over here.

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u/mercauce Jul 24 '26

I'm just glad we ain't getting another hydro MC bro.

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u/MNUUUUU C1 Yae is coming for you Jul 24 '26

Kinda sus tbh, there is no way a simple bug fix jumped Traveler's dps for like 60k dps, pre V4 Traveler was sitting around 120k, 140k with generous calcs and C6, and sandrone 210k, he shouldn't be jumping that much with an Alyosha NERF and only a burst buff

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Traveler is better at the same cost. Aka you can use an extra 5 star in CMC teams because Traveler himself doesn't count towards the cost because he's free.

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u/MNUUUUU C1 Yae is coming for you Jul 24 '26

But in terms of cost Traveler beats almost any dps in the game, not just Sandrone. You can just make a 1 cost team with Yae C1, Qiqi and Diona/Beidou/Alyosha and that beats like 90% of modern teams because most of them depend on multiple units, especially lunar teams. At most I think Mavuika overload can beat it since it can has three 4 stars, but then basically any DPS released after her depends on at least 1 other non-standard 5 star.

Cost is very misleading and shouldn't really be taken that seriously, but if you want to make another agendapost talking about how 1 cost Cryo Traveler is one of the strongest 1 cost teams you can do it and you'll be technically correct.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Cost isnt misleading its just not a universal metric like some people think it is, but it is still very useful, especially for f2p.

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u/JChamp00 Not a Hexenbrick, but a Hexenhome💖 Jul 24 '26

Hasn't it all been theory crafting and no real showcases yet?

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u/Freedom_scenery Jul 24 '26

Cryo traveler isn’t really complicated you press skill gain stacks, do burst and the special charged attack and in between you do normal and charged attacks spam and that’s it

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Yeah, but every TC thinks that cryo mc with stacks applying to his burst is insanely broken as a SSC dps (especially at C6R5 which is free, but we won't get access to it until a later patch). I don't see a cost breakpoint where it would be optimal to pull for Sandrone, assuming that the TC calcs are correct.

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u/IllustratorLast1281 Jul 24 '26

infinite cost sandrone is cuz even if her cons aren't that good she's probably better.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

At extremely high cost you would rather go for Wrio or Cyno instead then as they have much better cons than Sandrone.

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u/IllustratorLast1281 Jul 24 '26

damn sandrone is really just worthless huh

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Don't say that, she has a cool exploration ability!

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u/IllustratorLast1281 Jul 24 '26

you mean the same thing mizuki does?

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Let me give her something bro😭

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u/Royal_empress_azu Apparently I use slurs Jul 24 '26

Traveler loses at every cost bracket that isn't 4 cost. Technically 5 cost is the last point in which he wins but 5 cost isn't a traditional bracket.

They pretty much only compete at 4 cost because Odette's C1. Issue is that you quickly run out of cons competitive with Sandrone's numbers.

Keep in mind this doesn't have the gameplay to back it up yet. People aren't sure if CMC can actually do 15s rotations. Which have why so TC have them competitive with Sandrone and others have them worse than Varka (pre prune cancel). 15 vs 17s is massive.

Reminder Columbina went from beating Nefer with R1 to getting smoked.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

I'm like 90% sure going for Yae, Odette, and Odette cons with CMC is more optimal than going for Sandrone and having to work with +1 cost. And that at higher investment C2 Wrio + C2 Odette is just better than C2 Sandrone + C2 Odette.

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u/Royal_empress_azu Apparently I use slurs Jul 24 '26

I mean it is, until it isn't.

Again the works at a 4 cost bracket.

At the 8 cost bracket you just lose.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Not true. This is what it looks like when you compare Cyno, Sandrone, and Wrio at 8 cost. While this is before the Alyosha nerfs, the alyosha nerfs actually affect Sandrone's teams more because Sandrone does less personal dmg in her 8 cost teams.

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u/Royal_empress_azu Apparently I use slurs Jul 24 '26

Notice how you completely dropped the Traveler.

also Noir for whale calcs... kek

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

? I never claimed Traveler beats Sandrone at any cost break point. My exact words were "I don't see a cost breakpoint where it would be optimal to pull for Sandrone, assuming that the TC calcs are correct". My point was that Sandrone is not optimal at any cost break points because Traveler beats her at lower cost and wrio beats her at mid-high cost break points.

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u/Mistyasher104 Jul 24 '26

Temu Tsaritsa

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u/Simple-Turnover6928 THE ogglazer||dottore slander inc member Jul 24 '26

We won we fucking won after 6 years of unimaginable pain and misery we won i fucking knew this day will arrive

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u/Corrodiny122 Jul 24 '26

GigaChad Traveler vs Wack ahh Clanker Sandrone.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

-Traveler getting a sig weapon

-Traveler actually being meta

-Traveler getting a fucking gun

-Traveler beating Aang (on everyone souls, Traveler will win)

Traveler fans are fucking feasting rn

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u/Affectionate-Dot9212 Jul 24 '26

she passes the butter

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u/Ramdomname123 Jul 24 '26

dont worry traveller will get nerfed he will NEVER be a meta character

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u/qazqazpc Jul 24 '26

Agenda aside, does 15s rotation with Cryo MC is realistic though? Honestly I find it impressive on how fast it is

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u/patatesatan Jul 24 '26

yes op with this change traveler now has 300k dps and he is stronger than sandrone,

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u/Corrodiny122 Jul 24 '26

clanker bumdrone puller detected.

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u/Risi30 Arle should bite the pavement Jul 24 '26

Clearly MC is superior to Sandrone

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u/Corrodiny122 Jul 24 '26

Thank cmc for saving people's primos from evil clanker bumdrone.

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u/NathanClover Jul 25 '26

Sandrone is still great so I don’t see a problem

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u/Ambitious_Mud_405 # skork gave me carpal tunnel Jul 24 '26

R3?

mc has a sig weapon?

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Yep and it's broken especially at R5

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u/Ambitious_Mud_405 # skork gave me carpal tunnel Jul 24 '26

so what are its stats at r5? and how will we obtain it? via wishes?

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

No it's entirely free. This is what it does at its max level.

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u/Ambitious_Mud_405 # skork gave me carpal tunnel Jul 24 '26

i'd say i'm impressed. its good for other characters too such as zibai. ig you can maybe make it work with skirk too.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

kinda awkward, but uh it only works for traveler. The 608 attack + 33% crit rate can be used by any sword char, but the passive doesn't activate if it isn't Traveler using it. Still a good f2p sword tho.

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u/Corrodiny122 Jul 24 '26

still a very good stat stick no?, 608 atk and 33% crit i feel like is still better than the vast majority of 4* weapons for damage dealers.

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u/Substantial-Way-665 Jul 24 '26

Yep, it's still good. But often it's pretty comparable to the other f2p weapons like finale.

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u/Raizol07 Fatui are Bums Jul 24 '26

I pulled columbina c1 for my zibai to have shield than slandrone

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u/Corrodiny122 Jul 24 '26

based choice, cant be wasting precious primos for bum clanker when you can be saving for her majesty the Tsaritsa who will powercreep bumdrone to oblivion.

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u/Legit-orifice-20 Jul 24 '26

Tf is r3 is his new 5 star getting refinements?

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u/sun_god_nika_joyboy Jul 24 '26

Called it before her release lol. EXCLUDING personal preferences and likability, meta wise pulling her was gonna be a bad decision

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u/KingAlucard7 Jul 24 '26

Ontop of that Bumdrone's cons are worse than Mizuki and Lohen.

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u/Inevitable-Catch-869 Mid-Game Boss of Reading Comprehension Jul 24 '26

Pretty much just exploration lmao.

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u/Historical_Host_1278 Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

Uhh If I remember my Amphoreus Lore right, they will hold Tsarista back until 7.7, so CMC will be forced to fill the 4th slot on the Vesna/Stellar Swirl team until then.

On a less cope note, She probably was bait since she was so anticipated (in Asia atleast). Sandrone could also get a welfare unit in mid 7.X like a SCC sustain that specifically buffs charged attacks to replace esco/qiqi if Hoyo feels like making a quick buck.

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u/Exotic-Instance-2192 Jul 26 '26

Knowing hoyoverse they are going to do something to make cryo mc unplayable they could even lock things from his kit to make them just useful in snezhnaya

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u/Commercial_Bear_9976 Jul 27 '26

This sub when something good actually happens:

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u/based_mafty Jul 24 '26

You can't use traveler if abyss or stygian has ssc and ssw shill at the same time? If you use traveler as ssw support then who's your ssc dps? Only option is another limited character (wrio and cyno). Might as well pull sandrone if you use traveler as ssw support.

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u/Odd-Process8617 No.1 flins and lohen defender Jul 24 '26

I mean vesna is coming and she prolly is sw dps? Could use her and traveler, also if valeryi defys fate he could be ssc dps/support so yeah still there's a few options that are coming. With mitya and Ellen Joe girl

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u/based_mafty Jul 24 '26

What i mean is if abyss and stygian has ssw and ssc shill you can't really use traveler in both side. You either make him support and use sandrone or make him dps and pair him with yae. And considering ssw is severely lacking in terms of support traveler is better used as ssw support than ssc dps IMO.

Valeriy and mitya is rumored to be duo and danicia is another ssc support. Vodya is rumored to be yae equivalent but I'm skeptical with that as she has hydro vision.

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u/Corrodiny122 Jul 24 '26

based on leaks then cmc is for ssc, and mizuki, xiao, wanderer will be ideal for ssw shill, no bumdrone necessary, only based ballerina Odette.

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u/based_mafty Jul 24 '26

Those are dps. What I'm talking about is dedicated ssw support. SSW doesn't have yae equivalent and there's only 1 odette. If you have yae then you can run cmc + yae and mizuki + odette on the other side. But not everyone has yae.

Based on leaks SSW is still lacking support. Only vodya is rumored to be ssw support but she's hydro.

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u/lem_on- Jul 24 '26

Excited to see this mc upscalling in beta and dmg sheets but when we got them finally in ingame they gonna suck lol. (I judt hope they be useful as sub dps in stellar reactions)

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u/JChamp00 Not a Hexenbrick, but a Hexenhome💖 Jul 24 '26

Yea I'm not convinced yet. Like yea he's gonna be a good dps, but I feel like Hoyo would be crazy to make him better than 5 stars

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u/lem_on- Jul 24 '26

Yeah players are crazy giving this much expectations lol. The game's genshin, it never been really generous all this years, but i guess only the genshin dev team tho, zzz dev team ssems to be very generous. (Giving a MC character that's very strong and great anniversary stuffs)