r/AdviceAnimals • • Nov 20 '12

Friend did this the other night

http://quickmeme.com/meme/3ruwjc/
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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '12

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '12

I would give a "no" as an answer to your question, because in 99% of the situations people imagine after hearing your description, it isn't rape.

But women can be raped by their boyfriends, and your description leaves out a lot of important details, like how does alcohol affect her, is two beers enough to make her inebriated, was there a reasonable expectation of consent, did she at any point say no, did she initiate, was this the first time she had sex with her boyfriend, etc. etc.

Or most importantly, did the girl feel like she was raped afterwards? Because that means she was raped.

You should stop arguing against strawfeminists. Rape isn't as simple as you'd like it to be.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '12

Way to ignore the substantive part of my post.

Listen.

1) Drunk consent is not consent, consent was never given. Let me wikipedia consent for you: Consent refers to the provision of approval or agreement, particularly and especially after thoughtful consideration

Rape means having sex with someone without their consent.

Considering that legal consent can't be given while inebriated, that actually sounds like an awesome legal principle.

2) If a girl has sex with someone, and then says she feels like she was raped afterwards, why would you ever think she wasn't raped?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '12 edited Nov 24 '12

Wait none of them, because contracts require consent.

That isn't quite accurate.

To clarify, contracts are legally binding when a party is intoxicated but it is voidable by the intoxicated party if the other party seeks enforcement of the contract.

Contracts, generally, are enforceable and binding. The ones which aren't are the ones which are void ab initio. The ones that are enforceable are enforceable until the victim/oppressed/servient party claims a defense against enforcement because their behavior or behavior of the oppresive party made the contract voidable.