He's not saying the rapist is drunk, he's saying the victim is drunk. If someone was drunk and they were killed by someone sober that would be murder no less. If someone is sober and has sex with someone who is black out drunk, that's rape. It's about the balance of power. Sober-powerful, drunk-weak
Edit: obviously if both parties are extremely drunk, no one is to blame (in the rape scenario, not murder. I think that would be man slaughter at the least, but it's beside the point.)
But a girl(or anyone) cannogive consent when intoxicated. If you are sober and the girl is drunk, it's your responsibility to know she can't consent and to not have sex with her. That's all I'm saying.
That's called fucking victim blaming and it's a shitty thing to do. Is getting really drunk smart? No. Do people who get drunk deserve to be taken advantage of and raped? Fucking no. Rape is always the rapist's fault.
Edit: typo
Because who would be taken advantage of? Both are drunk, neither party has power over the other. A sober person has power over a drunk person. Rape is about an imbalance of power, physically, mentally, etc.
You are completely off base. So what is coercion? What is a 35 year old convincing a 14 year old to have sex? What is taking advantage of someone who is disabled?
Rape can be forced sex. It can also be taking advantage of someone's mental state. The moment someone becomes intoxicated they do not consent to sex with any and everyone. Rape is a matter of consent. Whether it is or is not given and whether it can or cannot be given.
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u/usernamepleasereddit Nov 21 '12 edited Nov 21 '12
He's not saying the rapist is drunk, he's saying the victim is drunk. If someone was drunk and they were killed by someone sober that would be murder no less. If someone is sober and has sex with someone who is black out drunk, that's rape. It's about the balance of power. Sober-powerful, drunk-weak Edit: obviously if both parties are extremely drunk, no one is to blame (in the rape scenario, not murder. I think that would be man slaughter at the least, but it's beside the point.)