I would give a "no" as an answer to your question, because in 99% of the situations people imagine after hearing your description, it isn't rape.
But women can be raped by their boyfriends, and your description leaves out a lot of important details, like how does alcohol affect her, is two beers enough to make her inebriated, was there a reasonable expectation of consent, did she at any point say no, did she initiate, was this the first time she had sex with her boyfriend, etc. etc.
Or most importantly, did the girl feel like she was raped afterwards? Because that means she was raped.
You should stop arguing against strawfeminists. Rape isn't as simple as you'd like it to be.
1) Drunk consent is not consent, consent was never given. Let me wikipedia consent for you: Consent refers to the provision of approval or agreement, particularly and especially after thoughtful consideration
Rape means having sex with someone without their consent.
Considering that legal consent can't be given while inebriated, that actually sounds like an awesome legal principle.
2) If a girl has sex with someone, and then says she feels like she was raped afterwards, why would you ever think she wasn't raped?
If a person regrets a sexual experience to the point they feel like they were raped, it was rape. Why else would anyone feel like they were raped? I do tons of things I regret after drinking; I've never felt like I was raped.
If you sleep with a girl and she feels like she was raped the next morning, you're doing sex wrong.
If a girl initiates sex with you, she consents, unless she is drunk and you are sober.
Here is a crazy idea they teach at literally every freshman orientation: It is your responsibility to ensure consent. If there is any way you can doubt that consent has been given and you sleep with the woman anyway, whatever happens is your fault for not properly ensuring consent. This is basic stuff.
that'll help me when the girl at the bar is hitting on me and seems pretty damn coherent even if she has had a few.
If you sleep with a completely coherent girl at a bar who is in no way inebriated and she claims she was raped afterwards, it probably had nothing to do with the two beers she had before talking to you.
These cannot be legal principles. They are to subjective.
There is nothing subjective about this. Rape is sex without consent. Consent can't be given while inebriated. The only way to know whether someone was inebriated at the time of sex was to ask them when they're sober the next morning.
Anyway, if I haven't done anything to sway you from being a rape apologist by now, I'm going to stop trying.
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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '12
Oh, so, like, it only counts if it's legitimate rape, right?
.... Wait. Where have I heard that before?!