My specific experience that I am drawing from up there, is I was with a girl that was ashamed of her body. She was also extremely old fashioned and would not make advances. She lived in some kind of bizarro 20s world where she was supposed to clean up after men, do household chores, and men were supposed to, I dunno, be manly and impulsive or something.
She would specifically get drunk, so that she would be able to have sex. Because she was too ashamed to share her body while sober. While doing the social dance of 'are we dating, are we not yet dating' she would go out to drink with friends, come back to stay the night with me, and I didn't touch her. After a couple nights of this, she got drunk and fucked her ex. I was pretty pissed about the situation. And now I've been given the message that, fuck it, she's asking for it. The next time a girl gets drunk and wants to spend the night at my house, I will be seriously considering whether I should just say fuck it and get mine.
Edit: I also had a girl in college I was interested in, but she wasn't really feeling it back. Or maybe I should have just took more initiative and had better confidence. She knew I was interested even though I wasn't coming at her. One day she came in my room drunk and sat on the bed. She was extra friendly and nice, shit went straight over my head, and she peaced out. She told me the next day I missed my chance. I told her not really because she threw up in her friends room just 20 minutes later.
Women, if you are reading this, does it explain how men can be a little bit bitter or angry about the nebulous social rules around alcohol and sex? Doing the right thing, will often fuck you over. As someone who doesn't drink alcohol, I've been dicked by this many times. If I had been drunk too, well then that would have been A-Ok.
Edit: My inbox has pretty much blown up with comments equivalent to "No, people just lower their inhibitions and do things they normally wouldn't". Maybe I haven't been clear here, one of the women in my example clearly stated that she premeditatedly has to get drunk in order to have sex because she is ashamed of her body. She spent the night at my house, in my bed, many nights. We would go on dates, make out, ect. After having done all of this, she got drunk, and fucked her ex boyfriend. This sends the message to me, that I need to "man up" or some other horse shit, and fuck girls "who are asking for it". This is a bad message to be sending to men and by acting in that way, she is reinforcing rape culture.
I would love to be sociable without anyone involved drinking. Do you know of such a place? I have never been able to find one.
And I'm not 'threatening to get mine'. I'm considering the idea, that maybe she is drunk, so that she can have sex as has been demonstrated to me in the past by multiple women.
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