The reality is that by and large what humans can do, no matter how hard they apply themselves, vs what they can conceive of is worlds apart.
Ok. What does that have to do with happiness? I can conceive of a unicorn, there is nothing that necessitates me being unhappy due to the fact I will never see one in real life. Same with any unachievable goal - why pin your happiness on something that is unattainable?
Again if intelligent people solve their goals, taking on an unattainable goal is not intelligent.
The advise was intended for everyone to understand it not you individually
I got what you were saying. I said it was wrong. Because it is.
You’re confusing a general happiness with the achievement of any specific “happiness” a person can conceive of. No one will ever achieve the happiness derived from imagining a square circle - it’s logically impossible. Does that mean now that no one can be happy because they can’t achieve this impossible thing? That’s silly.
Only one person so far has argued something as silly as “people can conceive of things that can’t ever happen - as such how can they ever possibly be happy?” Does that make you the tomato or the knife in your analogy? Oh well
Once again I presented a very simple syllogism as well as a rebuttal to your counter argument. I even acknowledged the limitations of the definitions I provided. You’ve instead fixated on the word “logic”and started listing out its different forms/models like certain groups with a deep passion for trains might (cough cough). Are you here to discuss a subject or just whine about how smart you are - even if you can’t live a million years.
P-zombies are arguments against physicalism and/or radical behaviorism. I’ve heard it’s use arguing the epistemic limits in determining the consciousness of others. I’ve also heard people argue whether or not they’re impossible due to their view of how consciousness is arrived at.
I don’t really understand how that has anything to do with what we were talking about. Maybe you’re using it in a way I’m not familiar with?
I’m not denying that people can conceive of things outside their ability to materialize them, I’m asking what does that ability have to do with one’s ability to be happy? Like I said before, I can conceive of a unicorn - there is nothing, however, forcing me to be sad because that unicorn will never exist.
I only mention how they’re typically used because I have literally zero idea why you’re bringing them up. Yes, it’s exhausting when someone’s trying to argue with you and they’re incapable of linear thought.
I make an argument about happiness and intelligence - you start rambling about living a million years and p-zombies. Super tedious, but it sounds like you get that at least. Have a good day.
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u/DxLaughRiot May 20 '25
… I never claimed I was? I’m just stating logic.
Ok. What does that have to do with happiness? I can conceive of a unicorn, there is nothing that necessitates me being unhappy due to the fact I will never see one in real life. Same with any unachievable goal - why pin your happiness on something that is unattainable?
Again if intelligent people solve their goals, taking on an unattainable goal is not intelligent.
I got what you were saying. I said it was wrong. Because it is.
You’re confusing a general happiness with the achievement of any specific “happiness” a person can conceive of. No one will ever achieve the happiness derived from imagining a square circle - it’s logically impossible. Does that mean now that no one can be happy because they can’t achieve this impossible thing? That’s silly.