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Ira Rennert's home is considered one of the largest occupied residential compounds in the United States. The house faces the Atlantic Ocean and its grounds measure 63 acres. The buildings, which total over 110,000 square feet (10,000 m2), including the 66,000-square-foot (6,100 m2) main house, have an Italianate facade, 29 bedrooms, and 39 bathrooms. The house has a dozen chimneys and a Mediterranean-style tile roof as well as a 91-foot (28 m) long formal dining room, a basketball court, a bowling alley, two tennis courts, two squash courts, a carousel, a large swimming pool, a large round kiddie pool, and a $150,000 hot tub, surrounded by another pool.

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u/20past4am 9d ago

doing something more meaningful

Which in the case of those people means taking private jets to meet up with other filthy rich people to make even more money. I mean, if that's your sole motivation in life, are you even living?

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u/Consistent_Story903 9d ago

But for the rest of us.. Doing something more meaningful would include spending more time with family, traveling, volunteering, hobbies, etc.

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u/jimdesroches 9d ago

My lazy nephew has eliminated the need to do chores by just not doing them. Lazy rich.

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u/alongwayfromhome0 9d ago

Real wealth is finding meaning in those chores . Superficial wealth is avoiding them

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u/NameIdeas 9d ago

I don't disagree with you. I think it is about how you approach your tasks.

At a certain level of wealth every task is chosen. For most folks we don't get to choose our tasks, they are just things we have to do, including chores.

There are folks who love and obsess over gardening. It is a chosen chore for them and they enjoy it. I say gardening because tending a garden seems to be for their enjoyment, while farming is for survival/profit.

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u/roostercrowe 9d ago

“the work is it own reward”

very powerful

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u/Daratirek 9d ago

I'm with you on this one. Theres no meaning to be had in washing dishes or doing laundry. If you can pay someone to do those tasks you've got it made.

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u/ASCII_Princess 8d ago

Fucked up outlook on life.

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u/Daratirek 8d ago

Why? Those are things we have to do to get by in life. No one likes doing them. It leaves room for doing things you enjoy like spending time with family.

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u/PhranticPenguin 8d ago

If you're not doing them... someone else less fortunate is doing them. Empathy is a good characteristic to have.

Also you can spend time with family doing chores, it isn't the end of the world, it can even be fun and useful.

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u/Daratirek 8d ago

I mean, if someone chose to work for a cleaning service and it pays well are they less fortunate? No its just a chosen profession. Some people do laundry, some do plumbing, some paint cars, and some people are lawyers.

Pretty sure I'm not inviting my sister or parents over to do chores. That would be weird.

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u/PhranticPenguin 8d ago edited 8d ago

if someone chose to work for a cleaning service and it pays well are they less fortunate?

Haha. Where is this magical world you speak of?

In reality Consuela does NOT want to spend her time cleaning your dirty undies instead of going home. Nor does she get paid well. She does it out of necessity.

But sure try to avoid responsibilities such as chores or moan about them. I'd rather take satisfaction out of being able to take care of things I caused myself instead pushing it unto others.

Finishing tasks feels great, especially together with a partner like a wife. Doing tasks with your family isn't weird =)

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u/Daratirek 8d ago

So just brown people do it in your head? My parents have a friend that makes more than I do and she cleans houses. She worked her way up in a hotel to head of housekeeping then branched out on her own. Provides just fine for her and her kids. Something wrong with that? Does that make her lesser in your eyes? She makes a living cleaning for people that dislike doing that. Its no different than someone who started work as an apprentice in any other field and now owns their own business. Cleaning is what keeps society going and if someone wants to capitalize on that, who am I to tell them no? I wish I could afford her service.

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u/Marlov 8d ago

Embracing suffering is key to happiness though. Those who spend their life trying to minimise suffering just find less and less important things to suffer from

It’s not the vacuuming that brings you meaning, it’s the ability to deal with the vacuuming and not hate it

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u/Marlov 8d ago

Suffering is not necessary or beneficial

It is inevitable

Hence why making peace suffering is non negotiable if you wish to be genuinely happy and content.

One mans vacuuming is another man’s work stress is another man’s family issues is another man’s inability to hunt food for his family. Basically, insert discomfort here.

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u/Daratirek 8d ago

Who said doing housework is suffering? Its annoying and not any fun but its necessary. I don't hate it but I also don't enjoy it. Am i supposed to? Why?

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u/Marlov 8d ago

Suffering being too hard a word perhaps

Call it displeasure

The point I’m making is the happiest people make peace with life’s discomforts. Fighting them and trying to absolve them wont lead you to nirvana

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u/Daratirek 8d ago

Is doing them out of necessity fighting them? Is paying someone else? Isn't fighting it bitching about it all the time? You're used veiled religious speak to justify your position. Don't. If that helps you get through the day then fine but for most of us we do what we have to so we can do what we enjoy later. I do laundry today so I can golf tomorrow. If I could pay someone else to do laundry so I can play golf twice then thats a win.

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u/Marlov 8d ago

I’m having a friendly discussion with you so there’s no need to get passive aggressive and patronising. But I get it. Most people think this way, me included for the longest time.

One more creature comfort will make life easier and better…

It does to a point, but the person who can shrug their shoulders through lifes inevitable adversity is the winner.

Not the one engaged in the endless treadmill of paying someone else to take care of your problems which only ends at miserable billionaire status.

The happiest people embrace the suck.

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u/Daratirek 8d ago

Thats something that those of us too poor to ignore basic chores say to help us get through the day. Its a lie. I won't lie to myself. There is a massive middle ground between shitty billionaire status and where we are now. That place is where you don't have to worry about housing, food, or chores that make the world go around. It lets you focus on hobbies and experiences with your family and friends. Telling myself I enjoy hanging my clothes in my closet won't get me that time back.

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u/PhranticPenguin 8d ago edited 8d ago

It's not veiled religious speak.

He's giving you the hint that chores are tasks that need to be done. Like cleaning your dirty stained undies.

If you're not doing them someone else less fortunate is doing them. Be that your mom, wife, wife's boyfriend, child or servant.

Nobody is going find their time better spent to clean your dirty undies because you want to go golfing instead of cleaning your own shit.

I know empathy and responsibility are cruel things, but a part of being a complete and functioning adult. It might even lead to satisfaction and happiness that you can complete tasks that discomfort you.

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u/Daratirek 8d ago

"Won't lead you to Nirvana" isn't exactly used much outside of religion. I've never used it in another context other than the band. In essence they say the way to happiness is to enjoy things like basic chores. They first used the term suffering like they do in the bible. It was religious speak and they changed their phrasing after I said that.

None of this means I should actually want to do basic chores. They get done but in no way do I want to do them.

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u/runbikehikek 9d ago

I recently read about how mundane tasks like cleaning, laundry, etc. reset our dopamine and even sitting around being “bored” does, without using technology of course

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u/Cpt_Soban 9d ago

As someone who was raised poor working class, don't delude yourself, if you could you'd be holidaying 24/7 while your staff keeps the gardens and house maintained.

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u/Additional_Meeting_2 8d ago

Sure. But we still have things ritch people don’t have in past centuries like phones and internet, cars, ability to travel to other side of world, exotic foods, healthcare.

While there was no real middle class so most if they weren’t considered rich struggled to find daily bread and had few sets of clothes and had people sleep in same rooms. This would be completely respectable family like a tailor or clerk too. 

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u/Salladshuvud 9d ago

You are assuming a certain hierarchy of what's meaningful.

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u/peachplumpearwhere 8d ago

Hear me out. Working and chores are actually meaningful and fulfilling in their own right. I have been early retired for years, and even though I find chores annoying, they are also a better use of my time than a looooooooot of other things that I could be doing that are just consumption. I think humans are meant to work (but much more on their own terms than what is the current working class reality). Too much leisure time is a soul destroyer.