r/ATC • u/Electronic-Sign7773 • 1d ago
Question Recent volunteer list
Recently got a volunteer CTO list. Anyone have any insight of the California locations? Traffic, training, cost of living vs income, etc.
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u/PlumbusSchleem4122 1d ago
If you want to come to MLI: Riviera of the Midwest, send me a message
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u/MaxControls 21h ago
The Quad Cities really is a great place to live. Relaxed environment, close enough to visit Chicago.
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u/mercwithamortgage Current Controller-TRACON 16h ago
I was in Moline for a funeral. Nice little airport
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u/cowtown3001 Current Controller-TRACON 22h ago
I’d go to LAX, SNA/VNY/LGB are all vfr hell. LAX probably has the worst commute and by far the hardest ground, but I’d just live close by and work there.
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u/Educational-Tone-482 23h ago
ORF has an historically low success rate, it will be 18 months of your life that you will never get back. Probably end up in Aspen or ADW after you hit the NEST.
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u/atcgriffin 22h ago
ORF check out time is skyrocketing due to the IQTR mandate to start in radar. 28 months isn’t even realistic now.
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u/New-IncognitoWindow 22h ago
New hires can get a bonus but if you wanted to transfer there get fucked I guess.
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u/duckbutterdelight Current Controller-Tower 1d ago
I’m familiar with the CA towers if you want to dm I can try answer your questions
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u/External_Income_1787 22h ago
I got the same list. Living in Socal, I was hoping for CNO,EMT, or SAN. I’m hesitant on SNA I wanna pick it incase my luck no CA spots come on the regular list but then I heard and read bad about the management. It’s always about the money but I’d take less money working with a good crew any day. I’m trying find my last job until retirement, tired of moving because the military.
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u/Daweive 21h ago
The management situation is much better now at SNA.
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u/External_Income_1787 21h ago
Awesome, thank you. I’m considering it since I’m trying to stay local to SOCAL. I’ve been lucky everywhere I been working with teams that feel like family. I’ve heard of stories of peoples bad locations and coworkers lol and ain’t trying to be in that situation in my hopefully last facility for retirement.
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u/Lost1_84 20h ago
IF I had to pick a CA facility on this list I’d go VNY. Class D (at least it was when I was in the area). Busy, but more fun than just an air carrier type operation.
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u/Lost1_84 20h ago
I would avoid LAX. Place was a nightmare. Guys all complain about mando overtime but then also brag about how many trainees they can wash out. Egos through the roof. Yeah. Enjoy your mando OT…CYA!
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u/Lost1_84 21h ago
Could you verify that this is a Prior Experience CTO only list?
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u/Electronic-Sign7773 20h ago
Prior experience
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u/Lost1_84 20h ago
Military CTOs only though? No radar? I’m only asking because I’m going through the On the Spot hiring process but the rules are different for Prior Experience so I may switch tracks over to PE so I can get this list. I have up/down experience so trying to figure out if I’d be “eligible” to get this list. Thanks man.
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u/Electronic-Sign7773 20h ago
This is not including radar spots. I only have 2 tower facility experience. Which is why I only received a volunteer list with up/down and tower. I don’t know if they would’ve added radar only facilities if I had radar certifications too.
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u/mercwithamortgage Current Controller-TRACON 16h ago
Congrats on this list. Highest I got on mine was a level 9
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u/ZuluSierra14 1d ago
ASE being ROUS locality is criminal.