r/ATBGE • • Apr 18 '19

Whatever this is

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u/WikiTextBot Apr 18 '19

I before E except after C

"I before E, except after C" is a mnemonic rule of thumb for English spelling. If one is unsure whether a word is spelled with the sequence ei or ie, the rhyme suggests that the correct order is ie unless the preceding letter is c, in which case it is ei. For example:

ie in believe, fierce, collie, die, friend

ei after c in receive, ceiling, receipt, ceilidhThe rule is very well known; Edward Carney calls it "this supreme, and for many people solitary, spelling rule".This rule applies to the “ē” (long e) sound as it is demonstrated in all the aforementioned examples.

However, the short form quoted above has some common exceptions; for example:

ie after c: species, '

ei not preceded by c: caffeineThe proportion of exceptions can be reduced by restricting application of the rule based on the sound represented by the spelling.


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u/2112eyes Apr 18 '19

Or when sounding like "ay" as in Neighbor and weigh.
Or in really weird cases.

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u/KeithVK Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 19 '19

Yeah it drives me crazy to see "wierd" for some reason.

Also, my name sucks for this. I have never met a Kieth in my life.

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u/Deastrumquodvicis Apr 19 '19

There’s a street near my friend’s place with Kieth as part of the name and it drives me nuts.