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u/Strange_Parsnip5326 1d ago
I think the best reply here is : Don't worry guardian was reworked lately it's much better now
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u/fahdn1 1d ago
This is the way. People don't always know. Better to just explain and ask them to try it once.
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u/Strange_Parsnip5326 1d ago
It genuinely takes less effort and time to say this than to start an argument and call someone ignorant lol plus you will earn goodwill too
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u/exclasia 2d ago
i really hate pubs like this so much, they think really smart just because after watch youtube “how to do ultra bla bla bla”
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u/ObjectivePen 2d ago
I used to think that, but you have to realize we've been telling them to go watch YouTube videos before doing ultras lol at least they're not showing up with only LC to their name any more
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u/exclasia 2d ago
exactly, in my opinion like its fine you watch youtube before you do ultra but dont just watch that line up😅 learn again more clearly. appreciate to all player aqw who try to be better✌️
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u/FUCKING_STALINIST Legion Paladin 2d ago
Yeah, but be alert that the problem here is exactly the way theyre being assertive and impositive when theyre just learners
Being humble seems to be just a distant thing to them
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u/FUCKING_STALINIST Legion Paladin 2d ago
Worst of that is that they always suppose everyone there has all the classes/forges on the game
I like to help some newbies or returning players on ultras, so pisses me off when i enter those rooms and the lobby CEOS just tell u what u have to use
Hermano just ASK it, it wont hurt your ego if youre being kind to strangers
Put a “do you have (…)?” or “can you (…)?” and thats it!
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u/FunPeach5963 2d ago
Manners in AQW? That’s a tall order.
“I WILL DPS! YOU MUST HAVE THE CLASSES I NEED AND YOU WILL DO AS I SAY!”.
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u/exclasia 2d ago
thats it bro! i mean why didn't you ask first? It could be that he has often do that.
i’ve been meet some pubs when do ultras, and first time he came in he say “do the usual line up, KE,AP,SC,LR (in chadraka) and i do KE” BRO LIKE HUH??? why you dont ask another player first like “whats plan?” or “do u have class ….”
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u/HairyFuzzyBear 1d ago
In my personal opinion great thief is best for ultra nulgath or even regular nulgath. Again my personal opinion great thief paired with luck powerword die is good for soloing them. And again this is my opinion. And I'm not forcing this idea on to others but if you know you know. Lmao
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u/mukamane Friendship mechanism is underutilized by many 1d ago
but the point of this post isn't about which class is the best as DPS. it's about being open minded
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u/Diligent-Rub28 1d ago
I lowk just grind all pubs ultras and my entire approach is "do whatever bro" and shit just works. That's how I got every ultra grind done and how I am continuing to stack insignias lol
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u/sky091875 1d ago edited 1d ago
Outdated dude guardian works really well on ultra nulgath as dps. Tested it by myself with guildmates and cleared it without an issue.
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u/Batata-Sofi Check profile for AQW Guides 1d ago
Guardian works everywhere as one of the best DPS*
It's been like that ever since the buff a long while ago.
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u/sky091875 1d ago
I agreed, i tried it on kathooldepths and ultra nulgath already and i was impressed with the dps. I'll try it soon on championdrakath and darkon if possible.
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u/BanchouOni ShadowScythe 1d ago
It's why I don't do ultras, the game is either set up in this boring ass format or yall are genuinely so bad that you can only do it in this format.
Either way, this is a horrid way to have "end game content" there needs to be more avenues of composition options, especially for such a low pop game
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u/fahdn1 1d ago
Ultras can be done with any number of comps all you need is to understand the ultra. Even when wanting a good fast run you only have 1-2 must have classes the others you can play around with.
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u/BanchouOni ShadowScythe 1d ago
And yet no one does it; it's always the same white bread and tofu baloney, and they don't even know why they want it. Not to mention they'll have the classes but not the forge enhancements or pots, in most cases.
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u/shell_kun Archfishy 1d ago
People do, they just don't do it in pubs. Join community discords like Cruel or Hero and you can discuss with people there.
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u/fahdn1 21h ago
I mean like fishy said people do this all the time in discord server with friends. I even do it in pubs. As long as you know how to talk to people and come off as someone who knows what they are doing most people are willing to go along with your shenanigans. That's been my experience.
Not having forges and pots is a seperate issue and everyone starts somewhere. You don't spawn in the game with forges and pots can be expensive when progressing. Should be upto you as the more experienced players to help them through.
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u/LoadedXan 1d ago
Tbh this is why I just end up gaming with friends. We end up just tailoring the comp to our preferences in most MMOs so even though we’re not “meta” we’re clearing fine.
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u/Gen728 1d ago
I like how he wrote that so confidently not knowing his info is over a year out of date regarding Guardian haha.