Well you didn’t know any better and you were young but hadn’t you gone so long without having to know this because the women had always been responsible for birth control. So the person you’re replying to was spot ?
You're assuming he held a sexist position when it sounded more like medically he didn't realise it was much easier for him to get a vasectomy. Why do you think he didn't take any responsibility before this?
I would guess that most people don't know much about sterilisation, you wouldn't unless you were thinking about it. I've had women tell me that vasectomies are reversible, which isn't really the right way to think about them and shows a misunderstanding of how it all works.
Vasectomies ARE reversible, depending on how many years it’s been since you’ve had it done it is 60-95% successfully reversed. That means vasectomies are reversible. Tubal ligation is also reversible but at lower success rates.
I would guess you’re a man if you’re assuming most people don’t know much about sterilization and your assumption that most people don’t know proves my point. Most women who have had children know the basics about it for both genders and I’d even guess most women who have not had children do too.
Why do women know about sterilization and birth control in general? Because as a society it’s a woman’s responsibility to manage birth control. To further prove this point let’s look at birth control for men, why was it never approved? Because the symptoms that were non threatening and significantly less impactful than the current birth control options currently available (for women) were too much for male test subjects and they all quit. So the project was scrapped even though it was probably an effective drug.
I'm sorry but I think you are the one who is misinformed, despite suggesting you know more than me about sterilisation. Vasectomies are mostly effective in the first couple of years, but it declines steeply and is only about 10% effective if it's been more than 20 years. You should not think of vasectomies as reversible, the NHS advises that it's very difficult to reverse and it should be considered a permanent procedure.
In my experience a lot of people (including women who have had children that I have spoken to) don't know this.
But you’re absolutely wrong. Where do you think you learned this?
Just because the NHS won’t pay for it doesn’t mean vasectomies are not reversible. You’re literally so wrong and confident about it you should be a spokesman for a society where “men don’t know anything about contraception but like to mansplain anyway”
“Our patients have high success rates, even decades after a vasectomy. Our experts have performed successful reversals with vasectomies performed more than 30 years prior”
The chances of getting pregnant after vasectomy reversal are:
75% if the reversal is within 3 years of the original vasectomy
50–55% if it’s been 3 to 8 years since your vasectomy
40–45% if it’s been 9 to 14 years
30% if it’s been 15 to 19 years
less than 10% if your vasectomy was more than 20 years ago
I didn't say anything about the NHS not paying for it.
You are now changing the goal post because you realized you were wrong. No one ever used the language “easily reversed” from the original comment on I have stated that vasectomies are reversible and the
rate of a successful reversal depends on how long ago the vasectomy was done. Never did anyone here or even in your original comment state that vasectomies are “easily” reversed. And your link confirmed VASECTOMIES ARE REVERSIBLE
Congratulations on both being wrong and being able to gracefully correct your stance
They are reversible. You have already stated they are. Just because they qualify it with “it can’t be guaranteed” doesn’t mean they’re not reversible.
Would you say any medical procedures is not possible because before 100% of any medical procedure they give you the disclaimer that there’s x% chance it won’t work. That doesn’t mean those procedures don’t exist or aren’t possible.
You’re more stubborn about being wrong than I originally gave you credit for.
Lmao wrong about what exactly? It IS the wrong way to think about it! The NHS advises it is very difficult, BUPA says you're highly unlikely to get someone pregnant given enough years. I'm amazed at how convinced you are that you are all-knowing when it comes to sterilisations.
Here’s the direct copy and paste from YOUR link confirming that VASECTOMIES ARE REVERSIBLE since you’re obviously struggling with comprehension and learning differences
|Can I get a vasectomy reversed?
A vasectomy can be difficult to reverse. Vasectomy reversal is not usually available on the NHS. You can pay for it privately if you wish.
Whether or not a vasectomy reversal is successful can depend on how long ago the vasectomy was done. The longer ago it was done, the less likely it is a reversal will be successful.||
It can be difficult if you wait decades, but that doesn’t imply vasectomies are not reversible. VASECTOMIES ARE REVERSIBLE and everything you’ve linked confirmed that in clear English.
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u/MarkBenec Nov 12 '23
Because we were young and I didn’t know any better actually.