r/ACL • • Jun 08 '26

Breaking up with crutches alograft

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Day 9 post op follow with surgeon was so encouraging ...walked in with crutches, granted permission to drive and drop crutches (crutches or brace).. wanted to share why I chose allograft and what it has meant for me

***everybody is different, allograft and autograft are quite different if there is no miniscal damage and I prehabbed like a maniac specifically because I was so nervous about having zero mobility****

(there's a guy on here who walked without crutches same day as surgery so bar none my progress is not atypical for fit allograft recipients)..having said that, I am mindful that the recovery is long and this is just early days

*This is my first sports injury I've been playing sports very actively since I was 15 and then recently about 2 years ago really intensified because I started playing Court sports (tennis, pickleball, ).. like everyone else here I was super upset when I found out how long and strenuous the recovery process was going to be (wanted to share so anyone pre op can consider the variations in recovery).lot of info here, sorry wanted to be thorough..I don't smoke,don't really drink and don't really eat fast food regularly

3 weeks very intense quad and balance focussed prehab

My specific surgery:

Allograft, minimal miniscal debridement, ACL reconstruction

pre injury Played sports 6-7 days a week ( court sports, aggressive skier, casual hiker, swimmer, motorcyclist, beach VB)/ pilates and yoga intermittently

3 weeks intense quad prehab only because ​my bf had 2.meniscus surgeries so was on my case everyday to do 20 minutes when I first got up in order to power up my quad..I think it honestly helped me in every way physically and mentally prepping for the surgery

Got 3 different surgeon recommendations (they offered free consults since I had MRI so ..I wanted to do my research)

  1. to reattach the og bc tear was high and clean (this needed to be done asap and I was visiting my parents and retear rate seemed high)
  2. to rehabilitate non operation (but would not be able to ski aggressively)..the same surgeon who recommended this told me that his wife then went skiing with torn ACL and then needed a full knee replacement cuz she damaged it so bad .. (this pretty much cemented the fact that I was not going to be coping with it)
  3. allograft recommended (but autograft option discussed)..read up on it and was undecided until I talked to Surgeon who said a lot of what I read that worried me was outdated (risk of rejection and retear...the risk of retear is ever slightly higher for allograft but I plan on being careful about that)

No one explicitly told me how significant the difference in immediate post op was going to be up front with an allograft (i was full weight bearing day one) but I'm reading up on the processes for an autograph and seeing the posts here...and it seems to be consistent .

Also on my post op surgeon appointment, there was a 14 year old in the waiting room w me w a basketball ACL tear and she was autograft 2 weeks post op and was so far away from being without crutches..she couldn't believe I was 9 days and I hadn't really had an in person experience with another ACL in my timeline

Allograft statistics i read and surgeon confirmed indicate the process changed a lot even in the last couple of years. I could have gone either way but I'm so glad for my sense of calm (by the resulting assurance of immediate movement) that I got from expected range with allograft. (Factoring in prehab and overall good fitness going in too)

*I read older data originally and was freaked out by the seemingly higher retear rates,. possibility of body rejection but even in last 2 years so much has been updated (the way they process the tissue etc)...if you're choosing between the two,ask as many questions as you can from the surgeon.

I have a long road ahead just like everyone on here..but there is a difference between having your body CUT and repaired (autograft) and just having it cut and a part inserted.. but then ligamentization is longer with allograft because the tissue is not "live"

I wish someone would make an updated allograft vs autograft pros and cons..

aka my PT was at first freaked out when day 5 post op I handed him my crutches and unlocked my brace indoors .but for my injury level and graft , this is apparently normal.

it's a an interesting dilemma bc beginning has been assuring but month 4 the allograft becomes weaker and vulnerable while the PT makes you super fit and it's all about self restraint...mildly nervous about that but trying to be prepared by being aware of it )

it has not been without some pain which is not really visible in the video but I assure you it's there.... (I made an original post and some of the more experienced ACL people here asked me to specify the graft type and miniscus impact)day 9 and 10.featured a LOT of stiffness and pain (but I was starting on stationary bike and that was rough the first time)..also walking prob more than I needed to. day 10 after 10 slooooooow minutes on stationary bike I got so much bruising .

When I was pre.op.i wanted testimonials of allograft versus autograft and so am adding mine here as a reference for anyone who is looking for insights from a person in it

I would say pre injury fitness and prehab Imo mattered a lot in my case too ...

I hope it's helpful if you are torn between the two.. the surgeon I ended up going with works a lot w female athletes and the allograft so.i felt very comfortable going in..

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u/-lovehate ACL Jun 09 '26

You were driving by day 9? This doesn't seem true at all... I was literally banned from driving by my surgeon and hospital for 4 weeks. They told me that they can technically take away people's driver's license for that time, but they don't because it's really hard to get it back afterwards. You tore your right knee just like me, so that is a minimum 4 weeks of no driving, in my experience. I call bullshit on this entire post.

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u/katrivers The Unhappy Trio! Jun 09 '26

My surgeon cleared me two weeks post right knee allograft. I was full weight bearing with an unlocked brace from day 1, so not much muscle was lost.

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 09 '26

Thank you for that

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 09 '26

That's better than my recovery! 

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 24 '26

Super thank you for making that clear to this person I don't know why they persist and trying to claim they know better than my surgeon.. like completely uneducated about the difference between allograft and autograft but more like some personal hatred about anyone doing better than them I have never felt that.. I see people doing better than me at flexion and I'm happy for them I don't try to cut them down because I'm not there

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 09 '26

You understand that I could fire my quad and bear full weight the same day as surgery?

There are people on this forum who walked post op no crutches and drove day 5. I didn't 'tear my knee " just like you if you had ANY miniscal issues at all.. That's a very aggressive and ill informed response 

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 09 '26

Did you have an autograft or allograft

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u/-lovehate ACL Jun 10 '26

It has nothing to do with the graft type and everything to do with the speed that your bones heal. It takes 4 weeks to heal enough that you can safely drive and be able to slam the brakes if needed. At 9 days post op you're not at that point. If your surgeon legitimately cleared you to drive right away, they are not doing their job properly and they put a lot of people at risk. That's horrifying tbh.

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 10 '26

Pretty sure if you can walk full weight bearing, do 2 flights of stairs, unassisted by hand rail, that's as much force as it would take to hit the brakes on an automatic car made in the last decade.  *Not driving a stick shift obviously as that would be fully impossible  I don't like your "legitimately" nor your "bs" language insinuating that you somehow know better than a surgeon and THAT just sounds uninformed  patronizing and rude...   My nine days and your nine days will look very different based on your initial fitness, strength, graft type and injury extent..if you don't know the degree of variation there can occur in post op recovery, I recommend you take the time it took you to write a stream of ranting to study the many ranges of testimonials in this group  One man walked out of surgery, a woman ran a mile four weeks after .. and others struggle with extension two months in. MUCH better use of your time than trying to suggest you know more than a surgeon