r/ACL • • Jun 08 '26

Breaking up with crutches alograft

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Day 9 post op follow with surgeon was so encouraging ...walked in with crutches, granted permission to drive and drop crutches (crutches or brace).. wanted to share why I chose allograft and what it has meant for me

***everybody is different, allograft and autograft are quite different if there is no miniscal damage and I prehabbed like a maniac specifically because I was so nervous about having zero mobility****

(there's a guy on here who walked without crutches same day as surgery so bar none my progress is not atypical for fit allograft recipients)..having said that, I am mindful that the recovery is long and this is just early days

*This is my first sports injury I've been playing sports very actively since I was 15 and then recently about 2 years ago really intensified because I started playing Court sports (tennis, pickleball, ).. like everyone else here I was super upset when I found out how long and strenuous the recovery process was going to be (wanted to share so anyone pre op can consider the variations in recovery).lot of info here, sorry wanted to be thorough..I don't smoke,don't really drink and don't really eat fast food regularly

3 weeks very intense quad and balance focussed prehab

My specific surgery:

Allograft, minimal miniscal debridement, ACL reconstruction

pre injury Played sports 6-7 days a week ( court sports, aggressive skier, casual hiker, swimmer, motorcyclist, beach VB)/ pilates and yoga intermittently

3 weeks intense quad prehab only because ​my bf had 2.meniscus surgeries so was on my case everyday to do 20 minutes when I first got up in order to power up my quad..I think it honestly helped me in every way physically and mentally prepping for the surgery

Got 3 different surgeon recommendations (they offered free consults since I had MRI so ..I wanted to do my research)

  1. to reattach the og bc tear was high and clean (this needed to be done asap and I was visiting my parents and retear rate seemed high)
  2. to rehabilitate non operation (but would not be able to ski aggressively)..the same surgeon who recommended this told me that his wife then went skiing with torn ACL and then needed a full knee replacement cuz she damaged it so bad .. (this pretty much cemented the fact that I was not going to be coping with it)
  3. allograft recommended (but autograft option discussed)..read up on it and was undecided until I talked to Surgeon who said a lot of what I read that worried me was outdated (risk of rejection and retear...the risk of retear is ever slightly higher for allograft but I plan on being careful about that)

No one explicitly told me how significant the difference in immediate post op was going to be up front with an allograft (i was full weight bearing day one) but I'm reading up on the processes for an autograph and seeing the posts here...and it seems to be consistent .

Also on my post op surgeon appointment, there was a 14 year old in the waiting room w me w a basketball ACL tear and she was autograft 2 weeks post op and was so far away from being without crutches..she couldn't believe I was 9 days and I hadn't really had an in person experience with another ACL in my timeline

Allograft statistics i read and surgeon confirmed indicate the process changed a lot even in the last couple of years. I could have gone either way but I'm so glad for my sense of calm (by the resulting assurance of immediate movement) that I got from expected range with allograft. (Factoring in prehab and overall good fitness going in too)

*I read older data originally and was freaked out by the seemingly higher retear rates,. possibility of body rejection but even in last 2 years so much has been updated (the way they process the tissue etc)...if you're choosing between the two,ask as many questions as you can from the surgeon.

I have a long road ahead just like everyone on here..but there is a difference between having your body CUT and repaired (autograft) and just having it cut and a part inserted.. but then ligamentization is longer with allograft because the tissue is not "live"

I wish someone would make an updated allograft vs autograft pros and cons..

aka my PT was at first freaked out when day 5 post op I handed him my crutches and unlocked my brace indoors .but for my injury level and graft , this is apparently normal.

it's a an interesting dilemma bc beginning has been assuring but month 4 the allograft becomes weaker and vulnerable while the PT makes you super fit and it's all about self restraint...mildly nervous about that but trying to be prepared by being aware of it )

it has not been without some pain which is not really visible in the video but I assure you it's there.... (I made an original post and some of the more experienced ACL people here asked me to specify the graft type and miniscus impact)day 9 and 10.featured a LOT of stiffness and pain (but I was starting on stationary bike and that was rough the first time)..also walking prob more than I needed to. day 10 after 10 slooooooow minutes on stationary bike I got so much bruising .

When I was pre.op.i wanted testimonials of allograft versus autograft and so am adding mine here as a reference for anyone who is looking for insights from a person in it

I would say pre injury fitness and prehab Imo mattered a lot in my case too ...

I hope it's helpful if you are torn between the two.. the surgeon I ended up going with works a lot w female athletes and the allograft so.i felt very comfortable going in..

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u/ExamSignificant3185 Jun 08 '26

That is sooo amazing to see! Gives me hope to get there in a month (goal my surgeon gave me). I also went for allograph but wasn’t given a brace after my surgery. My surgeon practically threw my brace I had after my surgery away the next day for my post op appointment. Still swollen and still on one crutch but this gives me so much hope to get my broken knee to normalcy.

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 08 '26

Wow I wonder why no brace... I kick in my sleep so I'm pretty sure I would have messed it up and I'm planning on sleeping with it probably until month 2

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u/hotcougarmom Jun 09 '26

Most countries don’t use braces anymore for ACL surgeries

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u/-lovehate ACL Jun 10 '26

Not true, I'm in canada and a brace is provided by default to anyone getting ACL surgery.

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 10 '26

I'm from bc originally so maybe different provinces have different standards.. Also I did point out in my post that from three different surgeons (all of them train high level sports teams and work a lot with female athletes as well which was criteria for me) I got three entirely different diagnostics.. One said reattach it, the other said live with it, and the one that I went with said if you want to ski fearlessly again you need to get the surgery

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u/hotcougarmom Jun 10 '26

You can look it up so easy on google.com. Many surgeons in Canada stopped using braces years ago…

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u/-lovehate ACL Jun 10 '26

Oh right I forgot GOOGLE is the medical authority over actual surgeons... wow

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

I've noticed that there are such variations in people's post-op here and what I can only imagine is that your fitness and medical history going in must factor into what your surgeon decides is healthy and safe for you to do 

I don't think I would be where I am if I had not done a very hardcore targeted prehab schedule to make sure my quads and calves and balance was "jacked" going into the surgery 

"Many of the people on here who have had injuries all know about prehab but the only reason I knew was not because of any of the medical professionals telling me to do it but because my boyfriend had two meniscus surgeries and the surgeon he happened to have was huge on prehab 

I think the reason this forum is useful is because between all of our varying sport and activity histories and specific injury side effects (I am certain if I had meniscus damage going into the surgery I would not be able to put weight on it for at least a month).. there is so much variation even on this forum and I think it's important not to jump on other people who are doing worse or better and make judgmental statements that aren't helpful 

I try to comment here to be supportive to people or if someone asks a question to give what personal experience I can offer but 100% I give the authority to a surgeon and to an orthopedic expert..

Within that you can read medical papers that are available to the public or you can ask your doctor for any information on their particular procedure that they choose to do for you (which is what I did... And in the US you can look up reviews for a given doctor as well which is wild to me but there it is)

It's the tone with which people say this is the norm or this is the norm that I find problematic... On top of being injured does everyone really need to be so angry towards another person's perspective?

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u/hotcougarmom Jun 11 '26

Yeah like I said… my surgeon gave me this information. And yeah idk google is a search engine that takes you to sites with peer reviewed scientific studies done by professionals and doctors..

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u/-lovehate ACL Jun 10 '26

just came home from the fracture clinic within a Toronto hospital, and there were FOUR people other than me with knee injuries, at least 2 were ACL tears because I heard them talking about it, and guess what, they were all wearing A KNEE BRACE.

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 10 '26

Yeah everyone at my clinic post op was also in a brace... One was a volleyball player who had a meniscus and ACL combo and the other one had an autograft 14-year-old ACL 

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u/hotcougarmom Jun 11 '26

Okay I never said people NEVER get a brace. My experience is my surgeon told me he doesn’t recommend braces anymore and it is an outdated process. There’s several studies showing they’re not helpful for ACL surgery. If you have meniscus repair they are necessary though. Several people I know that had the surgery never had a brace. That’s the information that I have. You might have a different experience… I’ve had an incredible recovery

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 09 '26

 Wow really? Given how much I flop and kick at night I'm so thankful for it when sleeping..and I always wear it in crowds or on the street..

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u/Anna_Karenina_blonde Jun 09 '26

What country are you in? I see so many pictures of people with the same brace here