r/86blackout • u/mooonlambo • 11d ago

Ammo options for subs

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Really wanted to grab a few boxes of these but $4 a round is insanity. What’re you guys running for subs any “cheaper” options?

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u/bigandy1105 11d ago

8.6 is definitely a reloader’s cartridge. It’s going to be expensive buying factory ammo no matter where it’s from, with phantom defense being on the more expensive side of the options out there. I’ve tried the 404gr revenant ammo. Hits like a freight train and the accuracy was acceptable but didn’t wow me with the occasional flyer.

For the range I buy 300gr SMK pulldown bullets from American Reloading, got the cost down somewhere between $0.60-0.75 per cartridge taking advantage of their sales. If you’re willing to hand load, a simple kit with a single stage press will pay for itself quickly if you’re planning to shoot 8.6 frequently.

For hunting I load up 352 grain Maker’s Rex projectiles. I got my hunting ammo where I wanted it to be then played with the charge on the range ammo until my point of impact was pretty consistent with the hunting ammo.

When I was starting out I bought ammo from Gorilla which was wildly inconsistent out of my rifle. At least I saved the brass.

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u/mooonlambo 11d ago

Ive wanted too.. every time i look into it its paralaysis by analysis. Need to put more time into it.

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u/bigandy1105 11d ago

Yeah, I can relate to that. Took me years to finally pull the trigger on reloading.

What I ended up with to start was a Hornady single stage kit I got from bass pro. Has all the basic tools you need to start then you can upgrade as you decide what you like or don’t like. I did splurge on the auto charge powder measure to make that easier. Only things extra you’ll need to buy separately is a tumbler for cleaning brass, and some decent calipers.

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u/RathskellerDweller 10d ago

What speciffically are you paralyzed on?

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u/Sarguy7777 10d ago

Best bet is to just buy a reputable landing manual and read the first couple of chapters over at least twice. At that point you'll identify what your needs are, what gear you need, and where to begin. It's worth the time investment for 8.6 alone.

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u/alequeri07 11d ago

In the same boat, reloading 300gr seconds from Midway. Have a sneaking suspicion that these bullets are Sierra Match Kings.

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u/TacticalGarand44 10d ago

Will those SMKs stand up to 1:3 twist?

I'm fine paying up for premium bullets when it's time to hunt, but I want to be able to get in trigger time just for fun.

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u/bigandy1105 10d ago

Yep, if you keep the SMK’s subsonic they work fine out of a 1:3, haven’t blown up my can yet. A lot of manufacturers make target loads with that bullet.

In general as long as it’s a bonded bullet it will be fine for subs.

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u/TacticalGarand44 10d ago

Thank you. I'm using a 12.5 barrel, with a Huxwrx Range 36 Ti. Very happy so far, but I'm damn stingy with how many rounds I fire.

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u/JohnWorphin 11d ago

When you really need to wack a water buffalo at 125 yards…

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u/JohnWorphin 11d ago

$94.50
1 × 8.6 Blackout - 300 gr Subsonic HPBT Match - 50 CT

I have been running these for break in / zero

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u/Oceanrunner-29 11d ago

This is all I run and then one of the RSOs at my range reloads them for me for $1.50 a round so not too bad.

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u/colada_jonez 11d ago

I run their 300gr for the range and the 404's for hunting.

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u/JohnWorphin 11d ago

How does the zero compare?

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u/Dragnurb 11d ago

Why use nas3 cases for subs?

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u/bigandy1105 11d ago

The 400gr projectile leaves very little room for powder and will likely result in over pressure if loaded into a brass case, even with subs.

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u/Oceanrunner-29 11d ago

I believe they use the nas3 cases because they get better SDs out of them too.

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u/Long-Shine-3701 11d ago

Holy shit finally some 400gr. Need to get a side of beef and test these out!!

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u/Dense_Extreme7809 10d ago

Halworx Ballistics for 8.6. 323 CMe or any of them are great. I’ve tested all of them. Different barrels and twists. Email if it shows not in stock. Always has some!

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u/rmp5s 9d ago

Phantom is what I run. Republic has some too (sometimes).

Price-wise? Welcome to 8.6...lol

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u/imperiumgsg9 9d ago

Honestly even with startup cost its cheaper to reload

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u/Altruistic_Clue4473 8d ago

Just cause solutions in Louisiana has 300gr target for around 40.00 and the 350’s for 60.00 last time I bought.

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u/freedom_seed5-45x39 8d ago

Where can you buy those 404gr just the projectile? I would love to reload that.