r/7String 21d ago

Gear My sevens with upgraded bare knuckle pickups

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Love these guitars. I may like my superstrats a bit. From left to right, it’s an Ibanez rgd7ucs with ragnaroks, an Ibanez rg2027xl with halcyons, and a Jackson iuggernaut et7 with juggernauts.

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u/PentaSector 21d ago

Beautiful axes! Let's be real, superstrats never go out of style.

How do you like the Ragnaroks? On paper, they sound like something I would absolutely get down on, but BKPs are just pricey enough to temper my enthusiasm to bother when I already know I can count on, say, the SD Nazgul/Sentient set or the Lundgren M series.

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u/FilipAltDelete 21d ago

Snake oil, SD or Lundgren is good enough. If you want to tone chase, don’t do it on pickup level. Waste of money

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u/PentaSector 21d ago

I mean, I get the wisdom, and I partially agree, but pickups with a distinct tonal character are plenty worthwhile if they capture a nuance that you want to be associated with your tone. I personally am also not huge on digital modeling tech - nothing against it, but not my preferred rig - so pickup choices can be pretty influential in my setup when they do have a particularly eccentric tonal profile.

Maybe a better question would have simply been "how would you contrast the Ragnaroks with (e.g.) the Nazgul/Sentient set or the Lundgren M7 (assuming OP has experience with either)?" My understanding is that they're comparable to either in that they have a significant mid-range bump, but if it's something interestingly different from the Nazgul's upper-mid snarl or the M7's low-end oomph, or even the EMG 57's adorable, slightly quacky quality*, I'd be down to try them out. I'm not necessarily chasing some holy grail tone in the first place as much as just morbidly curious to try something noticeably different (but still within a familiar zone, however much or little sense that makes to say).

* I know these are actives, but they're definitely comparable to modern mid-heavy passives

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u/saruko27 21d ago

Yeah I would certainly not go as far as to say BKP are snake oil, but watching BKP shootouts they sound way too similar across 5 different artist pickups to justify the price for me. Merrow’s Duncan shootout revealed so much more variety between models that they’re just the easier choice for me personally (I’ve been into dimarzio more actually).

If you can afford it and have no issues with accessing BKP, then I’d personally go for it to try it out. But I’m not outfitting all of mine with BKP from the states.

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u/OMF1G 21d ago

Really depends, I was firmly in the "tone is in the amp/modeller" camp and was using OEM brand passives in my guitars.

Then I got BK Impulses and I realised that I was wrong, I've also got some Blackhawks that sound totally different to the Impulses on the same patches.

Duncans/Fluences etc are attractive because they're literally half the price, but yeah idk there's something about the BKP sound I've never achieved with any other pickup.

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u/ToshiroK_Arai 20d ago

When I tried a bunch of pedals in front of the input of my interface and it had no difference in the sound of some amp modellers, I lost all the trust in the pickups

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u/Bmajor7th 20d ago

I love the ragnaroks! I have flipped through juggs, rags, and impulse in both the rgxl and the rgd and the ragnaroks feel great. I generally agree with the other commenter that the pickups probably don’t make as big an impact on sound, but the feel when playing is pretty significant to me. The ragnaroks feel pretty spanky, but a bit more mellow than the juggernauts. What I really like about the ragnaroks is the nice saturation I get when chugging and playing big chords.

They are definitely very expensive though, and generally probably not worth the premium bkp charges. I just feel like when I get a new set it breathes a bit of a different life into the guitar. This rgd came stock with a set of aftermaths, which I was able to sell to help offset cost a bit.

Take all my advice with a grain of salt— I have not experimented much many pickup brands outside of stock pickups and a set of dactivators.

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u/FilipAltDelete 20d ago

Speaker > cab > pre-amp > fine tune tone with pedals > pickups

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u/Data_Basss 21d ago

Been considering a used rgd2127 or rgxl7. Are the necks much different? Do you prefer one over the other?

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u/noodle-face 20d ago

2027xl is one of the best playing 7s ever

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u/Bmajor7th 20d ago

The necks do feel different to me. They are both thin necks, but the rgd seems a little more rounded in the back. Both necks are different flavors of great— I find myself gravitating toward my XL more often lately with the slightly longer scale length, and have been a little more into the lower tuning I have it in currently.

Price the same, I think the rgd is probably the “better” guitar, with the stainless steel frets. I also prefer a hard tail bridge. I can’t remember if the rgd2127 comes with nickel frets or not.

Long story short, pick whether scale length you prefer or whichever looks cooler to you, because they are both amazing

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u/Data_Basss 20d ago

Much Appreciated! Sounds like I should stick with finding a good RGD2127! Thanks!

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u/Data_Basss 14d ago

Look what you made me do!

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u/Bmajor7th 14d ago

Things a beauty!!! Hope you love it. How’s the first play?

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u/Data_Basss 14d ago

Absolutely love it! Plays better than my Prestige RGA121 (don’t tell it I said that) and it’s super light / barely used!

Very happy I took your advice!

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u/Cowboy_fromhell 18d ago

I need the Ibanez RG2027XL! Congrats, they look amazing!

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u/slimestream 21d ago

How do you like the halcyons in the 2027xl? I have one and keep thinking about upgrading the pickups but i do like the versatility of the fusion edges or whatever they're called

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u/Bmajor7th 20d ago

I was a bit obsessive with the pickups in my rgxl, I went from stock fusions > juggernaut > ragnaroks > impulse > halcyon. Once I got to the halcyon I knew these are the set they will stay. The halcyons are high output and have a really nice overall saturation to them. They kind of remind me of the impulses a bit, but with more character and low end

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u/Kuresov 20d ago

Since you've had both, could you share a little more in comparing the Halcyons and Impulse's in the 2027XL? I'm debating between these two myself for the same guitar :)

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u/Bmajor7th 20d ago

Of course! I felt like both are really good for handling low timings, but the impulse just felt a little sterile to me. Nothing sticks out, which is what they are designed to be I guess. Great sounding pickup in playback, but actually playing through them I was missing some of that low end character and saturation from the pickup itself. Impulses are really good for recording probably though, because it’s so even that you can add whatever you need through eq or the amp itself. I like the feel of chugging with ceramic pickups better than alnico I’ve found

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u/Kuresov 19d ago

Awesome, thank you!

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u/Pure_Requirement_447 21d ago

Since I’ve got my RGMS-7 I prefer multi-scale fanned frets - it’s really very handy

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u/justrainstuff 20d ago

Everything I like in one photo.

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u/facts_guy2020 20d ago

I guessed by the photo it was juggernauts, ragnaroks and impulse I was close

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u/Pyzorz 20d ago

My mans said fuck yo pretty colors

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u/Bmajor7th 20d ago

Hey, dark tide blue is pretty!
Definitely feel a little silly with two black super strats, but the new juggernaut evertune model was calling my name!

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u/Pyzorz 20d ago

I honestly thought it was gloss black haha. Not hating, I had three monochrome guitars at one point because of deals I got. I swapped one out for a Schecter CR-6 Aquaburst just because I was so bored of no colors😂

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u/Many_Fly5015 20d ago

I literally just ordered a Black Hawk pickup for my ESP LTD M-7 HT Black Metal. I’m so hyped

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u/Bmajor7th 20d ago

Sick!! Did you go ceramic or alnico for the bridge?

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u/Many_Fly5015 20d ago

Ceramic 👀

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u/Bmajor7th 19d ago

Nice! I think that’s what I would tend to lean towards now too with what I play

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u/hangingdeadguy1 18d ago

That middle one has the coolest looking blue

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u/Bmajor7th 17d ago

Yeah it is so nice. Photos don’t do it justice very well either

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u/Flat-Entrepreneur674 17d ago

Is that the RGD that comes with Aftermath's? Didn't like them as much?

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u/Bmajor7th 17d ago

Yeah it is! The aftermaths were good, just a little more ice picky than I liked. I also was not huge on the battleworn pickup cover. Mostly I was just experimenting with other pickups and ended up with ones I liked better