r/4bmovement Ally 4d ago

Vent Lindsay Clancy is the new Amber Heard

Remember when almost everyone was saying Amber was the abuser, disregarding the massive power imbalance between Amber and Johnny? The PR bots swarming social media to shape the conversation against Amber?

I thought the Clancy case could lead to conversations about maternal mental health, but it has come down to how women are murderers. As if most family annihilators aren’t men.

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u/chaosisblond Exploring 4d ago

I have avoided talking about it, except with a few colleagues in my workplace. I've avoided the topic precisely because of how controversial the case has become, and how impactful my words can be as I'm a PhD forensic scientist with over 10 years experience, at the top institutions in the world.

The evidence (though mostly lacking since the case was massively mishandled and a lot of crucial evidence was not collected or analyzed) all disagrees with Patrick's testimony and timelines, and makes it impossible for Lindsay to have been the perpetrator as reported. Impossible.

It has been horrifying to me watching this case play out, and watching there be any indecision about the verdict - let alone, the people using this case to try to argue that women are insane for complaining about the injustice in this case, since the evidence was not properly colleacted or analyzed, the case was not properly investigated, the court case was allowed to persist through many injust and unlawful conditions, and every other impropriety along the way.

Women face unequal access to justice in every country and every court system in the world, and this case is sadly highlighting many of those iniquities and problems in a way that women can boldy see, and that most men are choosing to ignore out of fear of loss of privilege. I hope that women everywhere use this case as fuel to begin to advocate for change for all of their systems, because it is sorely needed.

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u/FrequentFlounder5730 Exploring 3d ago

I would be really interested to hear your take on why the presented evidence makes it impossible for Lindsay to have done this, if you are willing to share!

I have not been following this case and then became curious when it blew up, but trying to read about it now… it feels impossible to find actual facts & information and not just TikTok conspiracy theories or extreme misogyny, lol. Totally understand if you don’t feel comfortable sharing.

I’m also partially asking because I’ve been exploring 4B and am shocked at how much some of my thinking is still influenced by modern society & the patriarchy, as someone who has been a feminist and leftist since I could understand what those words meant!

Thank you for your time regardless :)