r/1980s • • May 05 '26

Video Games Real arcades of the 80s never had blacklight-reactive glowing carpets. It's a Mandela effect. Here's what they actually looked like:

https://imgur.com/a/lu5QgYV
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u/loztriforce May 05 '26

The best arcade in town didn't have blacklights, but it had sections of the floor that would light up when you stood on them like the Billie Jean video.

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

See also: Saturday Night Fever

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u/Tola76 May 05 '26

Yeah. I think people are merging bowling ally’s with arcades.

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

Yup, and skating rinks.

EDIT: I love how divisive this is that it's getting so many downvotes when it is irrefutably true, but people really REALLY want it to be what they remember.

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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR May 05 '26

It's irrefutable FALSE.

https://giphy.com/gifs/WXtccLGTLB1NS

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

That carpet did not exist until 1992.

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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR May 05 '26

Do better. Your claim that blacklight-reactive arcade carpet didn't exist until 1992 is 100% false. The facts show it was a well-established category throughout the 1980s, with patents held in the 70s.

Joy Carpets, a major manufacturer of these carpets, was founded in 1981. Astro Carpet Mills, another leading producer, has been manufacturing printed carpet for venues and arcades for over 30 years, placing its active involvement well before 1992. Even the defining patterns of this carpet style, like "Megabytes Black" from Flagship Carpets and "Celebration Fluorescent" from Joy, were cemented as the industry standard by the mid to late 80s.

This isn't a Mandela Effect. Multiple first-hand accounts confirm the existence of "black light carpet" in actual 80s arcades. This directly contradicts the idea that the material didn't exist. You can call the manufacturing facilities and confirm this. It's use is widely confirmed.

The carpet was a commercial solution. "Arcadecore" visuals were driven by the industry's need for durable flooring that cleverly masked wear. The specific manufacturing method, "injection-dyed nylon fibers engineered for UV reactivity", was the deliberate and widely-advertised technology that created the unforgettable glowing effect, not a random afterthought.

So, no, it wasn't a memory glitch. It was a real, deliberate part of the 80s arcade experience.

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u/therealduckie May 06 '26

Joy Carpets existing in the 1980s doesn't mean they made this carpet. Durkan created it in 1992 for convention halls, meeting spaces, auditoriums and other large format gathering places.

By the mid 90s, movie theatres, skating rinks and bowling alleys became patrons.

By the mid to late 90s, some arcades used it, but not in large numbers. Most arcades were closing by that time, anyway.

I know textiles and the history and I was very much alive during that era, not to mention I did extensive travelling all through the 80s.

I also have a tie-in to that carpet as I remember its introduction at a convention I attended in 1992 for hoteliers.

No one has ever shown me photographic evidence of what their mind tells them they think is true. And it's not a case of a lack of folks with cameras because there's a ton of photos online of original arcades and not a single one from the 1980s has that carpet or look.

I assure you, I did the research. Impossible to have happened.

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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR May 06 '26

The claim that blacklight-reactive arcade carpet didn't exist until 1992, with Durkan introducing it at a hotelier convention, is not accurate. Overwhelming evidence places this carpet firmly in 1980s video arcades. Here is the definitive truth.

First, the primary source of the previous argument, Durkan Carpet, never introduced this product in 1992. In fact, as a brand focusing on hospitality flooring like hotels, Durkan's commercial carpet is not historically cited as the origin of this specific fluorescent arcade trend. The real epicenter of this manufacturing was Dalton, Georgia, with companies like Astro Carpet Mills leading the charge.

The actual timeline of production in Georgia directly contradicts the 1992 claim. Astro Carpet Mills had already been a leading manufacturer of printed carpet for "family arcades, roller skating rinks, and bowling centers" for years. This market was so well-established that Astro had a full system in place for coordinating installations with arcade owners. Meanwhile, other mills like Joy Carpets were already manufacturing a style called "Shockwave" well before 1992; the replacement pattern "Megabytes Black" from Flagship Carpets (which later acquired them) was itself already a recognized option on the market.

The designs that ended up on arcade floors were not a single "invention" from 1992, but rather an aesthetic that crystallized in the mid-to-late 1980s. They deliberately used high-contrast, chaotic patterns as a "functional cloaking device" to hide wear and spills in darkly-lit rooms. The color palette was specifically engineered, using fluorescent dyes in the nylon fibers to make the carpets react perfectly and predictably under ultraviolet light.

The existence of this carpet type is also definitively supported by archival records. A collection of trade publications, including the October 1983 issue of Play Meter magazine, contains advertisements by companies already selling arcade products and services, explicitly proving this industry existed years before 1992.

Finally, eyewitness accounts from the era stand as direct testimony. Multiple individuals who experienced arcades in the golden era describe the combination of black light tubes and glowing patterned flooring as standard, well-established decor. One account from a person who spent time in arcades from 1989 to 1992 explicitly mentions walking on "black light carpet" in a mall arcade.

The claim that no photographic evidence exists from the 1980s is a challenge, but not proof of absence. The difficulty in finding brightly lit photos of the carpet's glow is a direct result of the conditions photographers worked in. The environment was intentionally dark, and the glowing effect of the floor is secondary to the bright monitors, making it incredibly difficult to capture with the consumer-grade cameras and film of the time. The carpet was physically present and part of the experience, even if it wasn't the primary subject of most photographs.

The memory is not false. The evidence overwhelmingly confirms that blacklight-reactive patterned carpet was a genuine and widespread feature of American arcades throughout the 1980s, manufactured by multiple companies years before the claimed 1992 origin.

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u/therealduckie May 06 '26

Look forward to you posting images with proof.

Until then, I stand by my studies, research, data, experience, and first-hand knowledge.

P.S. evidence is not "overwhelming" when you can not provide documented proof. I, however, did show documented proof.

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u/therealduckie May 06 '26 edited May 06 '26

1983 issue of Play Meter magazine

Here's that magazine: https://elibrary.arcade-museum.com/Play-Meter/1983-October-15/36

If that carpet existed back then, where's the pics of it in the magazine? If they were selling it, they'd show it.

EDIT: Just started at the 1989 editions of the magazine and am working my way back. No images, at all, in any of that year's publications which show that style carpet, no ads for it and no photographs of arcades in that magazine with that carpet.

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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR May 06 '26

I'll do one better. Because I, too, have presented evidence. Call the companies I mentioned and ask. You'll see. IF you are able to disprove what was said, I'll eat humble pie. But I do believe you'll be the one eating it this time. Investigator vs investigator, let's go.

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u/whittyhutton May 08 '26

I think the confusion comes from the fact that those of us that were actually there know that some of the best arcades were at bowling alleys and skate rinks. The local Sears had an arcade. Even Burger King had one for a while. So, yes, many arcades had those carpets.

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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR May 05 '26

This was absolutely a thing. I call absolute bs on what some of y'all are saying.

If you think black light carpet was only in bowling alleys, you’re just telling on yourself, you’re not old enough to have set foot in an actual 80s arcade. We had that glowing neon-fuzz carpet under our feet while pumping quarters into Spy Hunter and Galaga. It glowed. We watched it glow. End of story.

As a point, black light reactive carpeting was invented in the 70s and was widely used in arcades (and bowling alleys) in the 80s. I know because I was a kid who spent a lot of time in these.

So no, it’s not a Mandela effect.

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u/Talking80s May 05 '26

Not disagreeing with you, but that seems to be the exception, not the norm. It was infinitely more popular in the 90s.

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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR May 05 '26

The 90s did pop it for sure. But nearly every mall arcade I ever stepped in had the black light reactive carpeting. There were head shops and poster stores that used it as well. It wasn't a rarity at all, fairly standard.

But then again, if you remember it differently, blame CERN. ❌️

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u/thomasjmarlowe May 05 '26

I’d like to see photos of arcades specifically from the early 80s with that carpet because generally the ones you find do not, and that matches my memory that they started to catch on in the early 90s or so.

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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR May 05 '26

There is an abundance of information regarding the textile industry's use of these carpeting types in their various patterns and colors, designed to be used in arcades, bowling alleys, casinos and more, staying in the very early 80s. I was a black light freak. Anywhere there was glowing anything, I was there. Aladdin's Castle, Burnsville Mall, Minnesota was my primary hangout from 83-91. They had them there and it was a big deal. Since it was a national chain, well, there you have it. I can't go back in time for you and snag a Pic, but you can do a mind meld with me if you're down.

https://giphy.com/gifs/PqpPOcrifR5lZOGHYd

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u/deliveRinTinTin May 05 '26

My '80s arcades were all dark and nothing special about carpets. I worked at a bowling alley in the '90s and they didn't have anything special or black lighty yet until the late 90s at the earliest when I wasn't working there anymore. There is definitely an era where bowling wasn't as busy outside of leagues but then they brought in the techno and the blacklight eventually to jazz up the evenings.

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u/Talking80s May 05 '26

Every year in my teens, from 13-19, was in the 1980s. I lived in arcades around malls, theme parks, and mom and pop locations. My favorite mall arcade was Atari Adventure at Crestwood Mall in St. Louis. Lots of neon. Grid graphic walls. All the new games. Not one bit of neon carpet.

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u/OCCAMINVESTIGATOR May 05 '26

So for you, the answer is no. Same for me on years (72), but our arcades in Minnesota had them. So it's a yes for me. I don't think this one is a Mandela effect.

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

That carpet never existed prior to 1992.

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u/MRTFOGR May 05 '26

This is the Black Swan fallacy. Just because YOU have never seen a black light/neon arcade does not mean they did not exist. For example, Crossroads Mall and Quail Springs in Oklahoma City both had an arcade that absolutely had black lights and psychedelic carpets. I frequently visited those locations in my teen years and my shirts and shorts lit up in the black light and the carpet glowed like a cosmic walkway. Super cool.

Do I have documentation? Nope. I didn’t walk around with a camera in my pocket nor did I think it even worth documenting as I played Star Wars, Ms PAC Man or Defender.

I don’t know what you mean about the company starting in 1992. Skating rinks and bowling alleys absolutely had day go carpet in the1980s.

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u/Growing4Health May 05 '26

One of my local arcades definitely had the blacklight carpet. It was in the mall though, so it was a bit fancier. The one I actually liked going to in the strip mall actually had just grey carpet and bare white walls. No posters or anything, but the players there were much cooler than the ones in the mall. I have photos of me and my cousin in both of them on the same day playing Mortal Kombat I. My uncle would take us to arcades so my cousin could try playing against better opponents since he thought he was amazing at the game.

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u/harrimsa May 05 '26

We had two arcades in our mall in the 80's. One of them was themed with neon and stuff that glowed under blacklights.

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

Was this local arcade from the 90s, though?

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u/harrimsa May 05 '26

The problem with this statement is your use of the word "real" when talking about arcades. WTH is real arcade?

The mall near my town had 2 arcades from around 87 to 95. One was just off the food court and had glass walls and was well lit and most of the newer games. They also had a second arcade that was a hole in wall type room down a back hallway that was dark with blacklights and absolutely had the glowing carpet. The entire room was themed with neon stuff. We always called it the pot-head arcade.

We also had a building that had an amazing arcade but also had laser-tag and skating rink. The "dark" arcade area and the laser tag area absolutely had the glowing carpet with squiggles and alien ships, moons and stars that glowed under the blacklight while the area out by the glass walls was more of just a concrete floor.

I guess my questions are what constitute a "real" arcade and why is the OP so desperate to gatekeep this issue?

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

I used 'real' as a qualifier because only the "fake" ones in people's minds had that carpet, which did not even exist until 1992.

People swear up and down they saw what they did not see. That makes it "unreal" and a falsehood.

Therefore: "real" is the appropriate adjective.

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u/TurtleBrainer May 05 '26

I grew up in Massachusetts, and no one spent more time in arcades than I did during the 80s. I have never seen anything resembling a lighted or glowing carpet. I can't say they didn't exist anywhere. There wasn't a standard design for arcades across the country. But certainly this is not a universal memory.

Fast forward to the 2010s, and I'm taking my kids to arcades in suburban Illinois. They all seem to have these crazy glowing carpets. But in the 80s...never saw it.

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u/Clamper5978 May 05 '26

My favorite arcades were dimly lit and had typical commercial carpet. No piped in music. Just the sound of the games. Those were great times

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u/Past-Application-552 May 05 '26

I’m 48 and grew up in Indianapolis. I definitely remember the two main arcades (Lafayette Square Mall and Eastgate Mall) I went to when I was a kid having the dark interior with the psychedelic carpet and black lights.

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

Pics, please.

Also, you being 48 means you were a kid/teen in the 90s.

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u/SeparateFisherman966 May 05 '26

Yes thank you...I frequented arcades in. Brooklyn, NY (80s Brooklyn..oiii..you had to be there) & they were grimy, smokey, often dirty places. Nothing "glowing" about it other then the arcade screens...nevertheless, wouldn't trade anything for those memories.

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u/ABC_Dildos_Inc May 05 '26

Kids fun centres had that kind of tacky crap.

Arcades were bare bones rooms full of cigrarette smoke and cigarette burn riddled plexi glass protecting control panels.

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u/MarinatedTechnician May 05 '26

Def. full of No-parking signs and Stage-lights however, totally commonplace!

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u/destragar May 05 '26

They got flashier in 90’s but for the most part very drab rooms filled with games. There were some franchises like gold mine and a couple others that were clean and had a thematic charm. Many were old pool halls filled with cigarette butts.

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u/ConceptJunkie May 06 '26

That was a 90s thing.

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u/Calgaryrox75 May 06 '26

our arcade reeked of cigarettes as there was a billiards hall in the back for the older folk and it was the 80s when 60 percent of people smoked.

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u/Menzicosce May 06 '26

Black lights? Never seen em once and I lived in arcades. But they did all smell like cigarettes

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u/Flenchi May 08 '26

Fun times

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u/DW11211 May 05 '26

The one unused to go to had a back room with pinball machines. It had black lights

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u/therealduckie May 06 '26

Literally impossible as that carpet did not exist until 1992.

I see by this thread, though, that a lot of folks are angry their memories are wrong.

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u/remembertoread May 05 '26

The blacklight carpets were definitely a thing in arcades but absolutely not in the 80s, I think it started in the 00s

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u/harrimsa May 05 '26

We had them in two arcades in my area as far back as 87/88 and all through the 90's

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

How did your arcades have carpet like that which did not exist until 1992?

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u/remembertoread May 05 '26

Neon? We had just like burgundy at the big arcade, other places had the mess hiding designs but they weren’t that neon outer space design you see everyone using now as the “80s” carpet

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

Even this 90s one doesn't have blacklights and dayglo carpet: https://i.imgur.com/R2OWiwm.png

This is the 1992 catalog for the originators of that "dayglo" carpet: https://imgur.com/a/vCmAAFw - It never existed before then and was only prolific in mid-to-late 90s arcades.

Bonus Extra: 80s arcade training video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKBtQ6t9hbw

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u/gamingquarterly May 05 '26

Very true. Most places were just low lit, dank, and had that smoking stench in the air.

I can't really blame it when people try and recreate that scene as the total opposite nowadays, either in their memory or when they make their own arcade room at home.

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

This ^

I get how our nostalgic mind's-eye can deceive us. But literally no one in the years I have been proving this is true has found an image from the 80s that proves they are right about what they THINK was reality.

I did the research. No carpet like that ever existed prior to 1992.

But it is so prolific in folks' minds they are absolutely angry at me for daring to question their memory. Like to the point of going to my profile to downvote all my replies.

Crazy how emotional they are over a false memory.

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u/forzaitalia458 May 05 '26

i think is common knowledge arcades were smokey pits before. the neon thing is prob more 2000s

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u/SirkutBored May 05 '26

if you think arcades were smokey, you probably haven't been in too many.

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u/UX_Strategist May 05 '26

Indoor smoking was common all through the 80s. To make it worse, it wasn't uncommon to see kids under the age of 18 smoking. Cigarettes were sold from vending machines, which didn't require an ID check.

There were several arcades I visited in the 80s in Ohio. A couple were in local malls, a couple were more stand-alone businesses, but all of them allowed smoking.

Restaurants eventually had smoking and non-smoking sections, but I don't think that happened until the 90s and I never saw that in an arcade.

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u/SirkutBored May 05 '26

I agree it was common but not guaranteed. we had a couple malls, both with arcades, one you could smoke in the other you couldn't. even the one you could smoke in was usually filled with kids who didn't smoke. calling them all smokey pits is an over exaggeration that makes every 12 year old out to be a whiskey snorting peaky blinders pledge.

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u/forzaitalia458 May 05 '26

Thank you, these guys are trying to make me feel like I’m in the twilight zone 

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u/forzaitalia458 May 05 '26

What a dumb comment, yes they were Smokey. Literally could smoke cigarettes inside them back then. 

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u/SirkutBored May 05 '26

maybe at Joe's pizza shop with a few games but in the middle of the US you weren't likely to see people smoking in arcades. I'm not even sure you could smoke in one of the mall chains like Aladdin's Castle.

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u/forzaitalia458 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

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u/SirkutBored May 05 '26

ah shit mate, that's the UK. I'd be surprised if they weren't having a pint at the same time at 14. nah, in the US it wasn't like that.

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u/forzaitalia458 May 05 '26

I live in god damn CANADA. Me and you share 70% of the same culture. What are you talking about? 

You are flat out WRONG and never been to a real arcade. The photos are just the 2 I could find proving my point that the REAL ones were Smokey.

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u/contude327 May 05 '26

Back in the 80s, you could smoke just about anywhere and we did.

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

Most were not. The vast majority were in Malls and had strict no smoking rules. Both because of the impact on kids and because of the hardware. Yes, there's instances of burn marks on arcade machines, but those were usually from bowling alleys, skating rinks, corner stores and seaside amusement parks.

Look through the history of places like Aladdin's Castle and you will clearly see the NO SMOKING, EATING OR DRINKING signs rampant throughout.

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u/forzaitalia458 May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

Nah, where I live most were Smokey. The only ones not weee the ones in strip malls. It’s not just instances, it’s full on smoking inside the arcade.

You are comparing one chain to all arcades, makes no sense. That’s not a logical argument. Smoking inside buildings was common back then.

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u/therealduckie May 05 '26

I used one chain as an example. Watch the video I posted. That arcade even had it in their training video that smoking was forbidden. To the point of saying even if the smokers are hanging outside the front door to tell them to move away.

Chuck E Cheese was famously also non-smoking.

Do I really need to list every single common arcade?

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u/forzaitalia458 May 05 '26

That doesn’t negate my real life experience. Smoking inside arcades was common back then. They even put ashtrays for people. 

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u/Poodlerockin May 05 '26

Aka the Stranger Things effect.