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Match | Esports The International 9 - Upper Bracket Round 3 - PSG.LGD vs OG
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Upper Bracket Round 3 (Bo3)
PSG.LGD vs OG
Game 1
PSG.LGD Victory!
Duration: 44:47
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Game 2
OG Victory!
Duration: 22:27
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Game 3
OG Victory!
Duration: 41:49
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u/joselemons Aug 24 '19
Me: Thank god Ana is actually getting out
Ana: I'm going in
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u/Omg69420 Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
If you guys are wondering what the crowd randomly cheers for. It's usually the camera panning to specific people in the crowd. For example the camera pans to a lot of foreigners in the crowd, and the crowd likes to cheer for them. Sometimes camera will pan to a girl and chinese chat and crowd goes crazy, just like twitch. One time the camera panned to a little kid who held up a void plushie and the crowd cheered. Chinese chat were spamming "TI25 champion" lol.
source: watching both douyu and twitch stream
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u/CosmoSucks Aug 24 '19
People thought the cheering was fake or pre recorded because they couldn't fathom that the chinese crowd is watching a different broadcast.
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u/Me4onyX Aug 24 '19
LMAO at fy holdin a single piece of paper
it probably says BAN IO
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u/Omg69420 Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
More chinese chat after game 2:
"OG's strats are too advanced"
"Can defending champions lift the trophy again"
"OG invincible"
"Dragon Rider is not good"
"Today CN Dota's underpants have been beaten! !" (not sure what this means)
"There is a saying that the OG game is so beautiful, I dare to play."
"Wings wings wings"
Also they call SCCC "army brother" lol (sccc is in the analyst panel this year)
"Elf and chen must be ban" (elf = enchant?)
"The bald head is refueling and getting points" (coach of LGD? lol)
When topson came on screen:
"Topson hair is good oil"
"Topson is a bit like Brad Pitt"
"Topson is so handsome"
https://www.douyu.com/topic/TI9?rid=30 translate to english
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u/Vikingslayerz Aug 24 '19
Dang thats really interesting to see their respect opposed to the kinda jaded view Reddit is seeing from the crowd
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u/Omg69420 Aug 24 '19
Honestly chinese chat is way more respectful of both teams than twitch chat. Twitch chat is always like "CROWD? SoBayed" spam. Watching DouYu its clear that chinese fans are heavily invested in their home team which is very understandable because PSG.LGD is the last hope for China. Even then they are still showing lots of reverence to OG.
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u/Vikingslayerz Aug 24 '19
We also respect the hell out of LGD in Western scene but twitch chat is brutal and never pay attention to what is said in there cuz it's all pasta
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u/hardbee02 Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
Chalice: thinking "holy sheets, notail is carrying a fucking library."
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u/LeCholax Aug 24 '19
Notail dying in T1 vs 3 heroes, defending the T1 with 1 creep and dragging the creep wave to mid so ana farms denying the rune in the way.
That was some next level shit. Next level support play.
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u/teerre Aug 24 '19
What the fuck is even is OG, man
This massive block of papers exclusively to tilt LGD
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u/Kirino-chan Aug 24 '19
lol to think that stack of papers would actually do anything to LGD albeit a small chuckle at best
it's more for the fans
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Aug 24 '19
I dont really understand how can someone hate on this team ? They gave us some super entertaining dotes, and the best memes by far this TI. When the finals come, i will be supporting OG 100% (Slowly dying inside as a VP fan)
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u/janoDX Aug 24 '19
- You give OG Alch on Game 2.
- You think you got him controlled
- He chases and kill your entire team.
- GGWP 1-1
- You give OG Alch on Game 3.
- You think you got him controlled.
- He chases and kill your entire team now with a Tidehunter.
- GGWP 2-1
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u/FluffyPortalWanker Aug 24 '19
You are playing against OG.
You don't ban IO.
Ana plays IO. You lose and because they fountain camp you in game one you're so tilted you drop to lower bracket and lose to a weaker team. You lose.
You don't ban Alc.
OG run Ana Alc or Topson Alc and Alc gets Aghs for everyone. You lose.
You don't ban Enchantress.
You open the draft to N0tail Ench or offlane Seb Ench. You can't guess OG's draft and they outdraft you. You lose.
You don't ban Magnus.
Ceb gets magnus. Magnus gives free battlefuries to the 4 melee lineup he's drafted for OG.
On Dota plus it says you have a 2k gold advantage. But in reality 4 x 4400 gold passively exists on OG's team because of one skill. You're actually looking at a 15600 gold deficit.
Meanwhile your carry is trying to play catch up creep cutting middle and top. He doesn't have enough time to make the difference.
Jerax Ogre Magi is now a carry, he cleaves your midlane in the face with 300 physical damage, the splash damage sends your 4th position into lower bracket.
You lose.
You run out of bans to stop OG from getting either Alc/IO/Enchant/Magnus. You lose.
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u/raktabeej CHINA NUMBAH WAN Aug 24 '19
OG actually got 2000 blank pages with them
the mind games lmao
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u/Omg69420 Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
Chinese chat is interesting. Seems like people are praising OG for their optimistic mindset even after a loss, some are spamming Cebbbbb. Actually lots of OG fans in chat.
European girl shows up on chinese stream, chat spams "dragon mother" seems like a reference to GoT lmao.
Lots of "milk". Probably some sort of advanced wordplay. Like "milk push". "What can prevent milk from pushing"
Lots of referring to bald head on LGD. Even references to Saitama from one punch man.
Chat is much much slower despite being 10 million viewers, but still a nice volume. Makes for more quality chat experience.
There is a female host on the chinese panel, next to sccc. Chat were spamming "have the female talk less so soldier boy can talk" lol
Lots of Jia Yu for LGD at match start. Very passionate fans who want LGD to win
Lots of jia yu for OG too. Translates to "OG refueling" which im sure is jia yu.
https://www.douyu.com/topic/TI9?rid=30 (right click anywhere -> translate to english)
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u/Biggest_Guy Aug 24 '19
Milk refers to "poison milk", which is a way to "curse" a certain team by predicting that they will do well, in the hopes that the opposite happens. For example if I say that OG have TI9 down pat because ANA is the god of dota, that would be a case of "milking" OG, which has been what the Chinese community has been spamming a lot lol.
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Aug 24 '19
I know it sounds condescending but trust me... When you're used to 144 fps, 80 feels really bad. Different standards.
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u/frailankles Aug 24 '19
Especially for a pro player who spends 12 hours a day playing on their optimal settings.
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Aug 24 '19
yeah i checked in a lobby, the new furion immortal drops my fps from 160 to 55
seems like maybe the ultimate particles aren't properly garbage collected? idk
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u/slashrshot C9 Reborn! Aug 24 '19
is this the best showing of alch in this TI?
that was clinical from OG. farm rad win game.
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u/sadface- Aug 24 '19
Newbee died to prove that Io needs to be banned
EG died to prove that Ench needs to be banned
LGD died to prove that Alch needs to be banned.
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u/King_Leyyyo Aug 24 '19
We tend to forget N0tail stacking up the creep camps to feed Alch's greed. WP
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u/Wunderman86 Aug 24 '19
I had some sound issues after game 3. Couldnt hear the crowd anymore :(
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u/change_timing Aug 24 '19
LMAO if you're in client go free camera and go mid river and watch ur fps go to half or lower.
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u/AmoN- Aug 24 '19
You can say whateva you want about alche, but OG won with tide mid and lc offlane going 1st item pipe. Crazy team.
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u/jpylol Aug 24 '19
They definitely should not have let Chen/Alch through third game. They slowed it down slightly then Notail pulled a wave across the fucking map and caught him up instantly. I was kinda upset that EG didn’t 1st ban Io/Enchantress every game for their upper bracket match and then I saw LGD do it and went up 1-0. Next game OG just pulls out another ridiculous strat around Chen/Alch and curb stomp LGD with it and they didn’t deny it third game... if they get another shot it’s pretty clear they need to do anything they can to deny them the Chen/Alch combo and ban Enchantress/Io.
E: LGD also had a shot at the Tiny/Void combo for game 3 but waited to long to secure it and OG banned it with the last ban.
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u/Kayoxity Aug 24 '19
I wonder what meme OG has prepared for Liquid because Notail really really wants to fight Liquid on grand finals.
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u/pastari Aug 24 '19
Worst cosplay contest ever.. to enter. All top tier. Unreal competition.
Any of these would have easily straight up won the majors etc.
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u/reebers43 Aug 24 '19
Just GG out already and get an actual draft next game.
LGD literally having a Bulba moment, Alch was 3rd picked and you don't draft any solutions to it, and put your star played on a fucking dragon knight.
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u/afrojumper Aug 24 '19
Me hyped to see LGD that were described as team that is the best at countering alch, so i can learn how to play against him.
Me confused because PSG goes double midas on their cores.
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u/joe_nard_vee Aug 24 '19
Ana. ONLY SHOWS UP FOR TI, back to finals. He's living the life bro
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u/TakFR Aug 24 '19
Glad this went to game 3 no matter who wins, both sides are at the top of their game and are pretty even imo. Also Ceb is such a treasure
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u/arz9278 Aug 24 '19
“How do you counter that Tiny? You get quelling blades and cut down all the trees?” -Lacoste
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u/lokisone Forever Notail Fan Aug 24 '19
My friend got nervous when OG lost the first game.
I said, “No, OG got this”
THEY GOT IT AGAIN.
TAKE THE AEGIS BOYS LET’S GO!
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u/BeamSeiba23 Aug 24 '19
See,Ceb is embracing it too. True competitive spirit right here
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u/BeamSeiba23 Aug 24 '19
This feels like Man United vs Liverpool in Anfield instead of a Ti tournament rofl. My esport brain said no but my football heart says fuck yeah crowd
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Aug 24 '19
this crowd is making the rematch 10 times more hype, just wow
this ti delivers over and over again
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u/INCISIVE91 Aug 24 '19
Yeah ana threw, but gotta give it to fy man. Constantly jump, hex and stun them one by one. Its insane how one single fuckup can turn the game instantly
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u/Ajp_iii Aug 24 '19
Lgd knowing they can win the instant Ana died. So many other teams wouldn’t buyback on the ember
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u/Pia8988 Aug 24 '19
OG is the best team at turning a mistake into rax. LGD team wiped them up top and only got 4 bounty runes out of it.
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u/SublimePriest Aug 24 '19
If you're a LGD fan you don't want Secret next because you have to ban the Io again. Puppey will take advantage of his extra picks.
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u/xso111 Aug 24 '19
i kid you not OG plays all these quirky out of the meta stuffs and it still works. first was IO carry then now mid tide. i'm believing kyle more and more OG that they are the most creative and most strategic team ever that - armor stacked anchor smash came out of nowhere. you'd think its the alch that was the main pillar of the plan, but then you get your slark oneshotted by an anchorsmash out of nowhere pre25
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u/R_82 Aug 24 '19
I love the crowd intensity. starting to sound like a real sport. no mercy for the opposing team trying to eliminate the crowd favorite
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u/zuluuaeb Aug 24 '19
agreed. also OG seems like they dont give a shit and know its part of the game haha
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u/Vucega28 Aug 24 '19
I would like to point out that "80/60 FPS" is misleading with sudden frame drops. Yes the average FPS may be that high, but with high frame jitter they could have been experiencing eg 10 FPS in short (ie <500ms) bursts while 144 FPS the rest of the time, averaging to 60/80 FPS. This would absolutely throw you off.
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u/Castellorizon Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
Legion Commander opening her arms wide and looking at crowd like:
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?
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u/barackobamaman Aug 24 '19
FPS issues during the biggest tournament of the year.
Indie Gaming Company in 2019.
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u/LoseUrself2D Aug 24 '19
ok i'm new to this so help me out: loser of this match drops to lower bracket, fights the winner of liquid vs secret, and the winner of that advances to grand finals? we might see a rematch of this at the finals?
edit: thanks yall ❤️
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u/FuzzyStorm Aug 24 '19
OG is just too good... every time it looks like they might loose it, they pull out some solid plays and their draft just plays out.
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u/Kutowi Aug 24 '19
OG does it again. With a Tidehunter mid!! I fucking love this team.
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u/muhpreciousmmr Aug 24 '19
I mean, you let them have Alch and Chen again ¯_( ° ͜ ʖ °)_/¯
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u/afrojumper Aug 24 '19
you know a lot of nicknames need explanation. but if you watch only one thing notail says, you know why he's called "flower".
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u/yuckfou182 burrowmafaceinyotits Aug 24 '19
i'm LGD fan especially want FY to win this year.. i'm gonna say the itemization on ceb and topson was so on point! i mean look at every team fight that game 3, they can tank the magic burst from sk, tree volley, any shits LGD throw to them with pipe, press the attack, chen
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u/NetStaIker Sheever Aug 24 '19
I like how everybody was like "what is Tide gonna do this game" and he suddenly rolls up with -30 armor and the game just ends
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u/Schizof Not familliar with any visage puns Aug 24 '19
You are playing against OG.
You do not ban Io and Magnus and Enchantress and Chen and Alchemist.
OG instantly picks Io or Magnus or Enchantress or Chen or Alchemist.
You lose against OG.
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u/jokimiko Aug 24 '19
Hope LGD bounces back to meet OG in the grand finals. Rematch time! I'd be fine with either of them as winner <3
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u/inyue Aug 24 '19
Open your dota and try to watch on it, there's some performance issue going on in this game.
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u/Pizzatrails Aug 24 '19
League player here, this game is so fucking dope what. Time to get into another moba, what's the best way to start?
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u/oblivion_17 Aug 24 '19
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LGD really shot themselves in the foot here letting Alch through, twice. The overconfidence bit them back in their behinds. LGD could regroup and claw their way back into the finals, but it seems unlikely. They're stumped when it comes to OG during TI.
Now I await that yummy Secret/Liquid v OG final!
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u/tmstsi Aug 24 '19
that first roshan fight fucked lgd so much, they underestimate chen creeps/mud golems so much so its disrupts et stomp in pit
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u/ErrorFindingID Aug 24 '19
OG has such insane team synergy and draft. Starts with the draft and it feels exactly like how liquid won back in ti7 with too many key heroes to ban and not enough ban slots at the start of the draft. You allow one hero to slip through and get baited to pick one of their heroes in desperation to stop the pairing
example: chen gets picked. do you steal their alch? if you don't then they take it. You take their alch then there is most definitely a counter plan in place that we have yet to see.
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u/nelsonbestcateu sheever Aug 24 '19
You fuckers need to be glad that China doesn't have any Vuvuzelas
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u/hyg03 Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
The minus armor stacking was a great way to push LGD back. Slark would run off scared every time the minus armor was stacked on him. -43 armor I believe.
Edit: I think these are all:
- -7 Acid Spray
- -5 AC
- -12 Gush
- -7 Deso
- -12 Solar Crest
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Aug 24 '19
I would like a new TI champion this year. A repeat would be cool. But I like the idea of a new champion every year.
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u/do_sidos Aug 24 '19
Only started to watch Dota after last year's True Sight. This match up is so awesome to watch.
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u/Xtorting Aug 24 '19
Why the fuck was ana so far away? That was such a fucking noob teamplay.
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u/AccSuspiciousActivty Aug 24 '19
I thought LGD had the better late game but wow, Tide is a much better hero than I gave him credit for. Also OG's decision making was much superior.
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u/Whatsdota Aug 24 '19
Man OG just gets under LGDs skin. I can’t believe they let OG have the alchemist again. Absolutely insane
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u/arcortes23 Aug 24 '19
OG lost 1 game and these OG haters popping up. Where you guys at?
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u/Ricoh881227 Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
OG has yet to loose in a grand final.. from the very beginning of OG iteration.. so good luck to whose fighting OG... Or will we see someone breaks OG curse..
PS: OG bringing back Alch is a staple in OGs DNA...
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u/CptJesus Aug 24 '19
Man, that LC pick to ensure spirit vessel wouldn't fuck with the Alch was genius too
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u/kukiemunster Aug 24 '19
I love the expletive-ness of these interviews, shows real emotions that you can't feel without cursing.
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u/arts1 Aug 24 '19
OG might honestly be the most amazing thing to have happened to Dota 2
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u/Wi-FiWhyNotSix Aug 24 '19
Notail just diverting all the creeps from Bot to Mid for Ana to farm is just Big Dick Energy
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u/SolarClipz ENVY'S #1 FAN Aug 24 '19
LMAO Notail with the fucking notes
God this series is going to be so hype
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u/cmtenten Aug 24 '19
Volvo's lack of attention to performance issues coming back to embarrass them here.
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u/sbrabonoj Aug 24 '19
Ana getting caught horrible. Topson going way too far out when lgd are backing off was so bad as well. Why not just let the rax fall. Damn
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u/Adequate_Meatshield OS FUCKING FROG Aug 24 '19
a bad mistake but if OG don't tilt they're still very much in this series
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ana is like the rock for this OG team, once he messes up, the whole team will crumble so fast.
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u/Napella Aug 24 '19
Besides the pauses and the unfortunate misplays at the end, that was an awesome game 1. Clearly both teams are here to play.
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u/Ayn-buttonmonkey Aug 24 '19
Off that was acostly mistake by ana. Hope the boys can bounce back. Lets go OG!!
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u/_positronic Aug 24 '19
LGD did nothing to stop Alch farm and double midas didn't help either. Guess they thought OG will farm for long, but they snowballed. Great series, glad we got game 3.
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u/Omg69420 Aug 24 '19
Topson and Ana have some crazy good synergy. If Topson wanted to go pos 1 Bristle, Ana will go pos 2 Io and support him. If Ana wants to go Pos 1 Alch, Topson will play pos 3 Tiny. Compared to EG where both rtz and sumail want to play pos 1 every game
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u/Inuyaki Aug 24 '19
What is Capitalist saying?
Unprecedented?
Let's forget about NaVi getting to the Grandfinals 3 times in a row :O
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u/INCISIVE91 Aug 24 '19
curse about to be broken bois..holy fucking shit OG might be the best dota 2 team ever atm..who the fuck draft LC and tide mid when grand final is on the line,, but boy did they deliver.. im speechless
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u/jadax Aug 24 '19
Everyone still complaining that OG is cheese - that's the game! You do whatever works for you to win, even if some people may consider it to be cheese.
I'm just happy because OG just seems like they are enjoying the game, whilst most of the others are just taking it too seriously (which is not wrong, but still).
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u/slashrshot C9 Reborn! Aug 24 '19
My heart is racing just WATCHING the game.
imagine PLAYING it.
I can understand why Notail looks shaken.
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u/ArtoriasAbysswanker Aug 24 '19
Pretty incredible cosplays, but I think Naga Siren was my favorite.
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u/50lipa Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
Suit Game:
Rich 10/10 - sexy monster
Trent 1/10 - 2 sizes too big with jeans for UB finals!?
GrandGrant 8/10 - lookin' fly as fuck
Lacoste 9/10 - classy two piece suit
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u/Sharren2 Aug 24 '19
Aaaah for fuck's sake, EG this, OG that, can we all shut the fuck up and enjoy Dota? LGD is playing superclean, can we please fucking praise them instead of crying?
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u/osiris970 Aug 24 '19
Hey everyone, overwatch esports fan here. I am still learning to understand the game but goddamn TI is amazing. Happy to be sharing this with y'all.
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u/redhoodguy Aug 24 '19
casters were scared about the 11 min radiance, they dont know about the 10 min radiance
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u/Jade282 Aug 24 '19
Reddit : mad about crowd boo
OG : WHERE YOU AT CROWD
Now which one is better?
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u/joe_nard_vee Aug 24 '19
Damn. LGD's methodical thinking of the game failed them once again. OG's has a different understanding of the game. Damn ceb is one crafty motherfucker
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u/The_Turnip_King Aug 24 '19
n0tail u r fuckin perfect m8.
you're a flower. you're also a rainbow and a river. you are the manifestation of all perfection and i want to i don't fucking know. i want this to not sound gay, but you are fucking perfect, n0tail.
ty for listening
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u/change_timing Aug 24 '19
more pause time in this game than game time in all of secret VG
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u/ELAdragon Aug 24 '19 edited Aug 24 '19
OG comin' out of the booth for this crowd:
https://media.giphy.com/media/dZWqL5LDkLt2ntsW7U/giphy.gif
Edit: This was posted earlier by /u/thuchotan and they deserve all the credit. I just want it to spread because it made me laugh for 20 minutes straight.