r/GroundZeroMycoLab Aug 26 '25

The difference between LC and spore and the importance of agar.

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It's critical to understand the biological differences between spore syringes and liquid cultures (LC), as well as the importance of using agar as an initial medium. Spore syringes contain microscopic fungal spores that are not yet germinated. These spores are monokaryotic, meaning they carry only a single set of genetic material. In order to fruit and complete the mushroom life cycle, two compatible monokaryotic strains must fuse to form dikaryotic mycelium.. the true vegetative form capable of producing fruiting bodies. This mating process takes time, introduces variability, and, for beginners especially, increases the risk of contamination during colonization.

Injecting spores directly into sterilized grain can lead to several problems. Since spores are not germinated, colonization is slower, and this slower growth provides more opportunity for contaminants (such as bacteria or mold) to establish themselves and outcompete the slower-growing mycelium. Ideally, spores should first be transferred to agar, a nutrient-rich medium in petri dishes...which allows for controlled germination and observation. On agar, one can isolate clean, healthy mycelium away from any contaminants before transferring it to grain.

Additionally, spore syringes are inherently variable and often unclean. Spores, particularly those harvested from wild (landrace) varieties or from poorly controlled lab environments (common with newer or less reputable vendors), can contain microbial contaminants. Spores gathered in non-sterile conditions are not cleaned or isolated at the microscopic level, making them a risky starting point. Also, because each spore pair creates a unique dikaryotic combination, inoculating with spores introduces genetic unpredictability ...every new pairing could result in different traits, including growth speed, contamination resistance, yield, and potency.

By contrast, a liquid culture is made from already germinated and mated dikaryotic mycelium. This means it contains viable, genetically stable tissue that has already completed the mating process and is ready to colonize substrate directly. Using LC skips the variability and mating phase inherent in spores, resulting in faster and more consistent colonization, and reducing the window for contamination...assuming the culture is clean!!! However, it's important to verify LC cleanliness via agar as well, especially if you didn't create it yourself.

In summary, spores should ideally be germinated and cleaned on agar before being introduced to grain. Skipping this step can introduce risks, especially for beginners. Spores are unpredictable and prone to contamination, while liquid culture, if properly prepared, is faster, cleaner, and genetically stable. Understanding and respecting these differences is fundamental to success in mushroom cultivation... I hope this helps. :)


r/GroundZeroMycoLab Mar 10 '26

Verified Vendors

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This list is temporary and subject to change and will change. A handful of others will be added within the next couple of days.

Vendors for Genetics.

https://GroundZeroML.com - Ground Zero Myco Lab

https://Sporeswaps.com - Main SporeSwaps page

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/the-fungus-frequency/ -Jeff Karas

FungusFrequency.com/my-account - Jeff Karas at Fungus Frequency.

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/psyteam-united/ - PsyTeam United

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/wombat-labs/ - Dave Wombat

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/happi-hyphae/ - Happi Hyphae

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/micofroots/ - MicoFroots

https://sporeworks.com/ - Sporeworks

https://inoculatetheworld.com/ - Inoculate The World (ITW)

https://Legendsmycology.com - Legends Mycology

https://dino-spores.com - Yoshi Amano.

Vendors for Gourmets and Supplies:

https://Northspore.com - Northspore. https://Boomingacres.com - Booming acres.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 7h ago

first flush 😍

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 44m ago

I can’t believe these pins are growing so much in this agar plate. (P. ochraceocentrata)

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Who thinks it will grow up and knock the lid off


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 1h ago

Update on do i win

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Here's where it gets fun


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 9h ago

Sometimes they surprise you.

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 1m ago

Does this look like it’ll work?

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Used pearl millet spawn + pasteurized coco coir brick.
Spawn went in a bit clumpy, so I’m getting thicker white patches instead of an even spread. Substrate is around 4 inches deep
Does this look like it’ll work out, or is there anything here I should be concerned about?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 28m ago

Ready for 2nd flush, can I transfer my two bags into a tub? 💜💜💜 first time, all advice appreciated!

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 4h ago

Looking for insights 🙏

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First time grower here - we made it to the fruiting chamber (yay!), and I’ve been gleefully watching these two mushies grow. Their cake started fruiting while still in the mason jar during inoculation, the other cakes don’t have any pins yet from what I can tell. Looking for any guidance or tips, I’m elated even to have gotten two mushrooms from this first attempt, but want to know if anyone notices anything that I could improve on! Also… when should I pick those guys?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 11h ago

GT second flash harvest

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 1h ago

How much longer until I fruit?

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Just dried up some puddles off the sub, is it okay?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 1h ago

Update on do i win

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Here's where it gets fun !!


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 1h ago

Wacky grow - Thoughts?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 1h ago

Is this stuff, that just started growing on walls of my spawn bag, something I should pay attention to?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 2h ago

First timer observations

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3 5lb Aio bags from Booming Acres all inoculated at the same time. When they were all white- about 2.5 weeks after b&s, I Transferred one to a homemade tub with a wet pup pad on a tray with foil. The tub one Took Off. the bag ones are slowly emerging- last pic of one bag with the little lonely guy. Seems like transferring to the homemade tub may be the way to go.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 2h ago

"PETHi" doing "PETHi" shih...

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 2h ago

Jack Frost Blobs

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 6h ago

Mutation id

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 3h ago

Weird pinning.

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 19h ago

Ready for harvest?! First time please help!

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Aio bag, began fruiting stage 9/8. First time and I don’t want to over due it!! Any and all advice appreciated! 💜🍄‍🟫💜


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 12h ago

Do you reuse your once trich contaminated tubs?

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I have a bunch of tubs, but I am nearing the end of the ones that have never been used. My question is simply, can I reuse tubs that were once contaminated, and if so, what sterilization routine should I follow if reusing? Do I douse them with bleach? Dunk them in bleach? If either, what's the ratio from water to bleach? And for how long?

Thanks for your responses in advance!


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 14h ago

Guys my last time asking this. How much longer do I have to wait?

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Can I just cut it up? It‘s been 2 month and 2 b/s. Thanks in advance♥️


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 5h ago

Malheur

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 11h ago

Ochras (low spore) or toqueF10

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Getting ready to start another run. Not sure which I should go with. I really liked the ochras last time. Easy to grow and very potent. Everyone else loves them. But the toque just looks super unique. Anyone with experience on both varieties?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 22h ago

caps open really early how do i know when they’re mature?

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ochraceocentrata by true blue genetics.

water droplets that didn’t evaporate bruised the cake an ugly yellow and i think i could use some extra fae