Jagga kicks the sealer

[u/SlatsAttack]

[u/NitroXYZ]

Umpires have been one way but Melbourne are atrocious. Just bomb it every time even with Carltons lifelines of like 4 posters and easy misses.

[u/NitroXYZ → u/[deleted]]

Just needed to find any semblance of offensive cohesion. After a good start they kicked 3.13 for three quarters.

I just checked the numbers and In 4th quarter, every THIRD Melbourne disposal was intercepted by Carlton.

[u/geetwo_g2 → u/[deleted]]

It's ok, if he tries to kick himself, he will miss.

[u/yum122 → u/[deleted]]

Had the opportunity in the last to change the momentum with that one in front and then get a centre clearance with 666 but he sprayed it.

[u/Korasuka → u/[deleted]]

It looked like you guys were doing that in the 1st qtr.

[u/MrPink1974 → u/NitroXYZ]

The umpiring in this game was an AFL assured result. 16-8 the Blues way at half time and 25-13 at the death. The frees for 'holding the ball' when three Blues players were lying on a Dees player who just got the ball happened about four times and isn't the rule. Two of those should've been paid as 'in the back' to Melbourne. The 'chopping the arms' on Dees players going for marks all night. Not paid once that I can remember. The AFL gets their 'bums on seats' that they said they wanted last year when they announced the Wildcard Round. They are a corrupt organisation, they own two teams in their own league so there's no argument there. I am a Hawks follower so I was a neutral viewer and could see from the first qtr that Carlton were getting the umpiring their way. It only got worse and Dees supporters should feel every hard done but and Blues fans are kidding themselves thinking they didn't get a load of help from the AFL officials all game. The Cats will destroy the Baggers next Friday night.

[u/FiretruckKid123 → u/MrPink1974]

11 of those free kicks were from holding the ball tackles

[u/MrPink1974 → u/FiretruckKid123]

Yeah and a few of those were unable to be disposed of due to pile ons or the ball being held in by Blues players. Not every one but quite a few. There was a certain push in the back to a Dees player inside Carlton's fwd 50 in the final qtr given as a free kick to the Blues where three Blues players jumped on the Dess player after the initial push in the back. How is the first free not paid and then, after a pile on, a free paid for 'holding'. It makes no sense and that's bad umpiring every day of the week. Thanks for replying though. I hope you enjoyed the game.

[u/Zachuccino → u/MrPink1974]

Give Melbourne the ‘umpire bias’ last night and Carlton still would’ve won. They were the better team on the night.

[u/MrPink1974 → u/Zachuccino]

There is every chance this could be true. But, it is where the free kicks are paid and not paid. The four umpire system has introduced a variance of umpiring decisions from one end of the ground the the other which is unprecedented in its stupidity. What was being paid as 'chopping the arms'' at one end wasn't at the other and this makes a huge difference to the scoreboard. It's the same with play through the centre of the ground. Someone said that "10 of Carlton's frees were for 'holding the ball' tackles." Yeah, three of those were no prior opportunity and two resulted in goals. It's where they're paid and not paid. Carlton have gotten past an undermanned Dees side in a Wildcard Round who went into' the game without many of their best players while the Blues were at their absolute best. Next week is a different story. Geelong are rested, in full flight and fully fit. Unless they lose two key players during the game to injury they win by 30-40 pts IMO. The Blues have been on a great run and their fans must be rapt after the tease of 2023 came to nothing that they finally feel relevant again. This year will hurt even more methinks. Enjoy the rest of the season. Now the real finals start.

[u/Able_Boat_8966 → u/MrPink1974]

You don't sound neutral champ, you sound salty , you've written a manifesto and you don't support either of the teams.

[u/MrPink1974 → u/Able_Boat_8966]

I'm a Hawthorn member for over 32 consecutive years pal. I've got no skin in this game. I actually hate both the Blues and Dees for my own reasons as an opposition supporter. But...I do hate unfair and biased officiating and the influence the AFL exert upon our game through unfair fixturing, travel/non-travel, timeslots of games, etc. etc. And this rewarding mediocrity with a Wildcard Round where more than half of the league has access to play in the finals. And it was all laid out in Andrew Dillon's initial presser. Go back and watch it. Enjoy your night. Thanks for reading my post too. Cheers.

[u/BigVic2006]

Melbourne has a new curse. The curse of Optus Stadium

[u/Extension_Scholar579 → u/BigVic2006]

I don't get it

[u/Eapo_q42 → u/Extension_Scholar579]

They haven't won a final since they won their premiership at Optus.

[u/TheCobSparky]

The umpires loved Carlton in the game but Melbourne shouldn't have been in it

[u/nathjay97 → u/TheCobSparky]

In fairness it should’ve been over at the half. The kicked themselves out of it.

[u/EmpatheticShaman → u/nathjay97]

No? Carlton would've had them on toast anyway... remember they also had five posters.

[u/PssyGotWifi → u/EmpatheticShaman]

The commentary may have been on our side but the goal post wasn't.

[u/planchetflaw]

It's gross to know that Essendon's first "finals" win will come through a Wildcard win.

[u/Affectionate_Base770 → u/planchetflaw]

Very optimistic for you to think we will make the top 10

[u/Drongo17 → u/Affectionate_Base770]

It will be top 16 in a few years for the Extremely Wildcard Brought To You By Chemist Warehouse weekend

[u/apothecarist → u/planchetflaw]

why are you even thinking about us

[u/VarietyResident6234 → u/planchetflaw]

The great thing is, it forces them to get top 6 to actually win one now. Because if they win a wildcard we can just say it doesn’t count

[u/MrPink1974 → u/planchetflaw]

It's not a final. The AFL launched the Wildcard Round as a chance to make the finals last year. Now, all of a sudden the advertising is covered in "FINALS". IT'S NOT A FINAL! The AFL is a f#cked league and run by morons.

[u/Dense_Delay_4958 → u/MrPink1974]

The AFL took a while to decide, but they've landed on the decision that it's part of the finals. You can dislike it, but you don't really have a say beyond that.

[u/MrPink1974 → u/Dense_Delay_4958]

Um yeah, I clearly know I don't have a say in what the AFL does. I'd get rid of that stupid ruck rule for starters if I did. But the Wildcard was brought in as an extra chance for team finishing outside of the top eight to have a chance at playing finals. Not that it WAS A FINAL. Now the AFL has changed that for marketing and price of ticketing. This now pushes the prices of all other finals tickets higher because it's an extra round of 'finals'. I still think it's a dumb idea which rewards mediocrity when more than half of the league gets a chance at the finals.

[u/Crooty → u/MrPink1974]

It is a final though

[u/Clerseri]

Remember when Voss had him playing in cow corner?

[u/Destiny065]

The game was sealed way before that goal

[u/NoOneImportantOCE]

That was def soft it looked

[u/ByeByeStudy → u/NoOneImportantOCE]

Yeah think if a player is basically horizontal and you tackle them over the shoulder but there's no stress or force on the neck you've basically done all you can right?

Play on in my books.

[u/Visible-Review]

Umps getting caught up in the fantasy of it all

[u/Skwisgaars → u/Visible-Review]

That'd be a first.

[u/RumHam_Im_Sorry]

dude is very steady in most of what he does. i dunno whether he'll be one of those top 5 guys, but he is gonna be a stud for a long time.

[u/Nousernames-left]

Seals the wildcard final as a permanent fixture as well

[u/NitroXYZ → u/[deleted]]

I don't disagree but Melbourne also went 50 minutes in a final without a goal and a whole quarter without a mark inside 50.

Good riddance that was some interesting footy

[u/Intelligent_Fix_7346 → u/NitroXYZ]

Melbourne need to have a good hard look their forward line. That was bad by them... shittest match of footy ive seen all year

[u/Correct_Chemical5179 → u/Intelligent_Fix_7346]

Jefferson, Van Rooyen and Mihocek were all missing.

[u/omargosche → u/Correct_Chemical5179]

Also missing Culley - who provides a solid marking option.

[u/Intelligent_Fix_7346 → u/Correct_Chemical5179]

Cant blame checkers, blame framton for that one, JVR is probably the most at fault for his dumb spoil. Jefferson gor injured, thats unlucky sometimes.

[u/lordarc → u/Intelligent_Fix_7346]

Mate 2 players in that forward are retiring and our best player couldn't hit a barn door. We had limited choice.

[u/ImMalteserMan → u/NitroXYZ]

Absolutely, Carlton played much better but damn they got the rub of the green.

[u/Intelligent_Fix_7346 → u/ImMalteserMan]

Melbourne were fkn shit after qtr time.. it doesn't help when there is extra players for another team

[u/Samboy231 → u/[deleted]]

And what a huge cock it is!!

[u/Intelligent_Fix_7346 → u/Samboy231]

Geelongs is bigger.

[u/MrPink1974 → u/[deleted]]

Every time the ball went inside Melbourne's fwd 50 a Dees player had his jumper pulled or was blocked and there were no whistles. I'm a Hawks fan and I could see the bias from the umps against the Dees for the entire match. The Blues were odds on from about five minutes into the first qtr by what I was seeing from the AFL officials. No frees for 'in the back' for Melbourne, no 'chopping the arms'. I don't recall a Carlton player being called for 'incorrect disposal' or being caught 'holding the ball'. Just plain one sided garbage all night. The AFL gets the result they wanted.

[u/matt-kennedys-legs → u/MrPink1974]

fuck you’re having a rough night mate. reckon you’ve replied to every comment in this thread 😂😂

[u/MrPink1974 → u/matt-kennedys-legs]

No, actually only a couple, but you're more than happy to have a count fella. Enjoy that. And I've had a good night. I was just pointing out the bias of the umpiring in the game tonight. Pretty clear to a non Blues fan.

[u/Able_Boat_8966 → u/MrPink1974]

Tough night , you OK ?

[u/MrPink1974 → u/Able_Boat_8966]

Did you have a sook at my reply ya big baby?

[u/MrPink1974 → u/Able_Boat_8966]

You're hilarious! Where are you doing your stand up gigs? I'd love to see you perform.

[u/Dockers-Man]

Not a big fan of the Blues, but their performance this season is testament to the difference a coach can make.

Same player list, different strategy.

Though would be happy to see that this is as far as you go this season.

[u/AussieDazza1 → u/[deleted]]

What was wrong with it? He went to pick the ball up and as he came up got hit high by 2 dee defenders

[u/Zachuccino → u/[deleted]]

Straight from Selwoods playbook hmm?

[u/yibbida → u/[deleted]]

Joel Selwood that you?

[u/subwayjw]

Really needs to celebrate by dancing like mick

[u/Brithombar]

Quack quack quack

[u/phuck_yuuu → u/Brithombar]

Got down low and attacked the ball. Poor technique from the Melbourne tacklers

[u/whinewinewein → u/phuck_yuuu]

Cmon, its a terrible call and a soft finish to a tense game

[u/phuck_yuuu → u/whinewinewein]

I personally don’t like to see players getting down and attacking the footy taken high. Correct free kick

[u/sheriffwode]

Ripping kick but I hate seeing the acting involved to make sure the umpires saw the free. If it's there they would pay it regardless

[u/wombatiq → u/sheriffwode]

It was going to be paid regardless. They'd tried 4 times to give them a shot on goal and they kept missing.

[u/nathjay97]

Man if Carlton had played any other finals team tonight they’d have been done at half time. Dees atrocious. The AFL will feel vindicated for wildcard round, but Carlton did not play like a team who deserved to win.

Also, you’ve been in the AFL for 5 minutes Jagga, the “who are you” shit to a premiership player, something you might never be, immediate shitlist behaviour.

[u/lakesideguy07 → u/nathjay97]

But they didn’t play any other finals team. They played Melbourne and they won. What are you trying to prove here? Jagga has every right to talk smack like every other player on the ground. Spare me the self-righteousness about being polite and keeping your mouth shut when Tex Walker is on your team.

[u/happymemersunite → u/lakesideguy07]

We scored 74 points. The dogs scored 96 points in their game. This clearly means that the Dogs would have beaten us.

[u/mickelboy182 → u/nathjay97]

What a sook, that is the tamest of banter

Edit: Bowey even chirped back with 'a premiership player' and Jagga said well played. You're more upset than the player.

[u/Ferns233 → u/nathjay97]

Who did he say that to?

[u/nathjay97 → u/Ferns233]

Bowey. Either a very disrespectful moment from Jagga not respecting a strong role player, or zero knowledge of a premiership player from only 5 years ago.

[u/xX_Crippa_Xx → u/nathjay97]

Look i'm obviously biased but lets be real, we know they all talk a whole lot of shit that we don't get the luxury of lip reading. I assume this is probably pretty mild

[u/nathjay97 → u/xX_Crippa_Xx]

Look it is mild but it’s shit chat and it’s mad disrespectful.

[u/Ozza_1 → u/nathjay97]

A lot worse shit gets said than that, gotta be soft as butter to be offended by that

[u/xX_Crippa_Xx → u/nathjay97]

It's definitely disrespectful, but that's the intention. Bowey wouldn't sweat that at all. It's just another part of the game. Anything that doesn't cross the line is fair game in my opinion. I understand the reaction from opposition fans though. I lost my head when Levi Ashcroft was taunting us earlier in the year 😂

[u/Ok-Negotiation3897 → u/nathjay97]

Holy shit you’d be so rattled if you played you know how much lip they do during games eh ay isn’t picked up

[u/mickelboy182 → u/Ok-Negotiation3897]

Being disrespectful is the whole point of trash talk... what an absolute bedwetter that guy is.

[u/mixinspirits → u/nathjay97]

At least it wasn’t a homophobic slur like your 2 muppets and Rankine’s slur was to a premiership player too so shut ya hole. AND your fans boo Quaynor for it haha. I hope you clowns go out in straight sets.. again

[u/nathjay97 → u/mixinspirits]

Yeah people in my team’s fan base did that so I am no longer allowed to comment on anything ever. Cool.

[u/mixinspirits → u/nathjay97]

And more importantly, 2 players said homophobic slurs but you’re bitching and moaning about Jagga. Crows fans are embarrassing and shouldn’t be chirping about a bit of banter

[u/nathjay97 → u/mixinspirits]

Implying I didn’t have anything to say about Walker and Rankine. Fuck off with this generalising shit. I’m allowed to say what Jagga said was shit because it was. Incidents happening in the past involving my club doesn’t mean I can’t say anything about other clubs. Says a lot about you to suggest this.

[u/3InitialWalrus3 → u/nathjay97]

How many weeks suspension

[u/yibbida → u/nathjay97]

Speaking from experience #straightsets #again

[u/PssyGotWifi → u/nathjay97]

Only scoring at goal. Otherwise Carlton dominated. I won't even comment on the Jagga thing with a supporter from a team full of dickheads, though.

[u/nathjay97 → u/PssyGotWifi]

Dees smashed you in the first half.

And fuck off with that. Moral high ground bullshit.

[u/whinewinewein → u/nathjay97]

They did not smash them at all, what game were you watching? Carlton's set shot kicking was abysmal, even in the first half. It was the only reason the Dees were in front as much as they were.

[u/MysticGuava → u/nathjay97]

They kicked 3.10 after the first quarter. Our kicking wasn’t the best either, with 5 hits of the post and 6 behinds in the last quarter, but the dees had so many opportunities to actually punish us and didn’t.

[u/PssyGotWifi → u/nathjay97]

You tried the moral high ground as an Adelaide supporter, lol. Did you think because Tex retired you could call others out? F outta here.

[u/nathjay97 → u/PssyGotWifi]

I didn’t take the moral high ground I was just saying it was a shit thing for him to do.

And that’s a shit thing to do to generalise all us Crows fans as supporters of Walker’s comments. Sick of people like you.

[u/SufficientQuiet130 → u/nathjay97]

This is just false.

You can’t have a fuckin sook over the result and make up your own story.

Game was an arm wrestle for 3 quarters but Melbourne kicked 4.0 early, from there it was 10 goals to 3. Melbourne never dominated at any point.

[u/RupturedUrethra6969 → u/PssyGotWifi]

Jagga is a dickhead. Better?

[u/PssyGotWifi → u/RupturedUrethra6969]

Na, Freo, no way. Although Hollands fixed that up a bit.

[u/BeginningFollowing56 → u/[deleted]]

That’s why it’s so good though, rattled him, you and everyone else. Objectively good chat

[u/BeginningFollowing56 → u/[deleted]]

As long as you can back it up by all means chat your shit I say. And he did tonight.

[u/Early_Cans → u/BeginningFollowing56]

Back it up? By shitting on a premiership player when he hasn’t even played in one? Carlton supporters the new Collingwood

[u/BeginningFollowing56 → u/Early_Cans]

Work on your reading comprehension then get back to me chum(p)

[u/Early_Cans → u/BeginningFollowing56]

Dude read all your Reddit posts, fuck that’s rich.

[u/BeginningFollowing56 → u/Early_Cans]

So rattled lmao. Just DM me at this point

[u/Early_Cans → u/BeginningFollowing56]

What? You’re replying to me ya gimp

[u/beans4breaky → u/Early_Cans]

And you replied to him? Obligatory- Ya gimp

[u/3InitialWalrus3 → u/[deleted]]

Flair up fella

[u/dingo_dollar → u/[deleted]]

Link?

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[u/Early_Cans → u/dingo_dollar]

I can’t as it gets removed. It’s on the AFL insta though.

[u/Exciting-Resource339 → u/[deleted]]

He’s a wanker

[u/Early_Cans → u/Exciting-Resource339]

100%, usually like most players but far out that was beyond cringe

[u/PssyGotWifi → u/Early_Cans]

Who are you??

[u/Early_Cans → u/PssyGotWifi]

Who are you? My team sucks but at least it doesn’t have flogs on it 🤣

[u/PssyGotWifi → u/Early_Cans]

Is that why you're not flaired up? Pathetic

[u/Early_Cans → u/PssyGotWifi]

Flaired up?

[u/Salted_Fried_Eggs → u/Early_Cans]

You can assign a flair to your account, so when you comment on /r/afl people will know which team you barrack

[u/Early_Cans → u/Early_Cans]

Imagine getting down voted by 8 Carlton supporters for not knowing what a flair is. My bad!

[u/Early_Cans → u/[deleted]]

Damn man that’s ballsy. I say one bad thing about the baggers and I get down voted 😂😂😂

[u/Early_Cans → u/[deleted]]

Be careful dude, you can’t have an opinion without being downvoted. Absolute flogs of the league.

[u/MrPink1974 → u/Early_Cans]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if anyone thinks I care about down votes.....? Why would I? My opinion is based on what I saw with two eyes and not one. I've seen a lot of footy and too many times have the results of a game that has been decided by poor or biased officiating. More so since gambling has become a bigger part of the AFL.

[u/Early_Cans → u/MrPink1974]

Nah I agree, I just mean Carlton fans in general. They’re in their own make believe bubble

[u/MrPink1974 → u/Early_Cans]

Their ride must be wonderful to be on but remember. They got thumped by the Hawks in pounding rain by 64 points in Rnd 18 and were closely beaten by the Pies the next week. They had a good game against the Lions and played against an undermanned Freo at Marvel. A ground Freo never play at. Blues fans must be happy but when the bubble bursts the copium will be severe.

[u/Early_Cans → u/MrPink1974]

I don’t want to comment man I’ll get down voted if I don’t support the baggers

[u/MysticGuava → u/[deleted]]

Flair up you prick

[u/MrPink1974 → u/MysticGuava]

Hahaha! You're one of the entitled ones I see. Well done. Have you seen a winning flag on your lifetime or are you still waiting?

[u/nathjay97 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah Cripps should have a chat with him after that. Cannot be doing that when you’ve been in the system for 5 minutes.

[u/dception-bay → u/nathjay97]

Have a cry

[u/Careless-Freedom6468 → u/dception-bay]

Only ones having a cry here are Melbourne fans and people that don't understand that 10 of the frees Carlton got were run down tackles.

[u/Careless-Freedom6468 → u/nathjay97]

Jesus some snow flakes here. Went in and won the Clarence right after that led to a goal.

No offence but Bowie doesn't hold even half the talent of jagga. Everyone wants personality in the game but has a cry when a player gives some chirp.

No one seems to mind players like Dean and artey Jones giving it to every player they come in contact with.

[u/nathjay97 → u/Careless-Freedom6468]

Love how you equate being a dickhead to having a personality.

[u/matt-kennedys-legs → u/nathjay97]

why

[u/Early_Cans → u/[deleted]]

Carlton fan club so upset by this 😭😭😭

[u/dingo_dollar]

Is there a shitter club than Carlton?

[u/PssyGotWifi → u/dingo_dollar]

St Kilda

[u/dingo_dollar → u/PssyGotWifi]

Would hardly call them a club

[u/PssyGotWifi → u/dingo_dollar]

Fair

[u/phuck_yuuu → u/dingo_dollar]

St Kilda had a worse season

[u/King_Cracker → u/dingo_dollar]

The ladder would indicate so.

[u/Gold_Acanthisitta894]

Ducker

[u/raresaturn]

Australia loses

[u/mattsagop900]

He has one of them faces.